Just shut down the damned thing already.

Twitter in name only.

And not even that, just the domain says Twitter. It’s called Bluebird.

But the bird in the logo is white!

Huh??? Ok, now I’m confused. It’s Bluebird now, huh?

Will be called TwiXtrr now? 😛😄

“Genius businessman” mmhm. Total grift. Idiot. In any other world he’d be living in a trailer park with trump flags all over his truck, working at Walmart yelling at brown people.

Edit: See comments below

You know, I 100% agree with your assessment of Musk. It’s just that you’re saying this about something that Musk has nothing to do with except actively opposing it. The subheader:

Judge hasn’t ruled on X Corp’s preliminary injunction, but Operation Bluebird plows ahead

It’s such trivial, basic etiquette to read beyond the headline before commenting on the article you’re supposed to be discussing. I’m really sick of wading through comments by lazy assholes who’ve spent more time vomiting out their gut reaction to the headline than just sitting down and reading for 30 seconds.

Reddit was bad about this, but Lemmy is somehow fucking next-level.

• The headline itself is already clear this isn’t Musk’s. Why would the new Twitter be saying Musk gave up the name if it were run by Musk?
• Even if it wasn’t (it is), the subheader is abundantly clear.
• Ars is a solid, well-written source with a good reputation for not wasting waste your time with churnalism or clickbait.

Just running through some common excuses people who refuse to read use to shift their profound, utter laziness onto anyone but themselves.

I read it, I know its not him. I was referring to how stupid he was for changing the name of an insanely popular household term. Absolute idiocy becuase of his ego loving the letter x.

Its like Kleenex changing their name to bleepoopy and demanding everyone now say get me a bleepoopy I have a runny nose. Utter idiocy.

I was referring to how stupid he was for changing the name of an insanely popular household term.

Okay. I un-downvoted, but I think you should consider rewriting, because right now, it reads like you’re calling the new Twitter a Musk grift. That’s not just me; the second-top comment seems to be referring to your comment but politely not mentioning it by name.

As for the grift part, it’s complicated, because on the one hand, it was a bald-faced grift going in where he meant to manipulate the stock market (his repeated attempts to back out prove that). But on the other, having to complete that deal meant he gained control of one of the largest social media networks in the world. And he’s clearly been using that to political ends that are hard to qualify but probably – given the extreme worldwide rise in right-wing authoritarianism – fairly successful.

(Assuming it made a difference getting Trump into office, that $44 billion is probably well paid off through political corruption alone.)

For context for future readers, current comment is just:

“Genius businessman” mmhm. Total grift. Idiot. In any other world he’d be living in a trailer park with trump flags all over his truck, working at Walmart yelling at brown people.

Ah yeah I can see that.

Lol. It’d be hilarious if this succeeded. It was so dumb of Musk to change the name.

Most of what musk does is dumb.

He didn’t get rich from being smart.

I assume he got rich how most people get rich, luck and being a sociopath.

Mostly inherited wealth, but also those things.

also having a lot of money to start out with helps

And an apartheid era emerald mine

aka luck

And also by being a vaporware scam artist. Thunderf00t on YouTube has a whole collection of videos showcasing Musk’s whole repertoire of bullshit.

yea… that’s pretty much all Thunderfoot posts about nowadays… he hella fell off, for multiple reasons. But like, a decade ago he used to talk about scam kickstarters, atheism, interesting science topics, etc. And then in those debunking science videos he would bring the math and receipts that made it fun to watch… But then in the past 5 years it’s just been Elon… nearly every video is about Elon. It’s obsessive.

And tbf, that’s not the only ick around Thunderfoot. I mean, he did kinda get his start during the Anti-SJW culture war shit doing anti-femisist ragebait videos. Basically occupied the same spaces as Sargon, Bearing and GradeAunderA… and he’s never really “grown” out of that, or addressed it, let alone apologized for it. He harps on Elon, and sometimes Trump/AlexJones/StevenCrowder but he’s never really talked about how he and his ilk helped bring them about.

Was unaware of much of that; how disappointing. That being said, what I’ve watched about Musk was informative.

Not to mention that he milks this content to extreme, he can say things which would take 1 minute in 10

His latest video was exploring ‘anti-baking soda’ as a potential novel way to do CO2 capture at scale.

youtube.com/watch?v=fvxNmStSC3M

He also ‘got his start’ before Anti-SJW youtube was a thing. His first series that popped off, back in the day, the day being 2008ish, was "Why do People Laugh at Creationists?'.

I don’t know that he ever … explicitly collabed with Sargon or any of those guys, but yeah he did exist in roughly the same genre-space, around the GamerGate era of i dunno, 2013 to 2015, ish?

While he has covered Elon a lot, thats because he started calling bullshit on Elon’s nonsense since way, way before that was common… he’s been tooting his own horn a bit, following around 10 years of Elon’s trolls telling him he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and well, it turned out he did.

He literally has a personal grudge against Elon Musk.

For all his faults, he is one of the oldest, OG youtubers, since damn near day 1, who is also still around, and hasn’t imploded.

His first vid is 19+ years old, so, 2007ish, and its calling out GWB as a war mongering liar.

All that being said, if you want a more recent youtube channel thats basically just mostly been tearing Musk to shreds, with science: Common Sense Skeptic.

By ‘more recent’ I mean they’ve only been around for 5 or 6 years, I think.

A surprising number of people do not understand how getting rich works. Literally anyone can do it. You simply need to do whatever everyone else refuses to do.

You take on the risks. You debase yourself you compromise any and all ethics. You whore out for shareholders who will give you endless money to shield them from consequences they directly funded.

It’s profitable because there is always demand for a new villain and damn near nobody wants to do it. For a good fucking reason.

Are you rich? Where’s your Bugatti?

It’s in the shop. In Canada. But totally real. You just can’t see it right now because it’s in the shop. In Canada.

You take on the risks.

It’s easier to take on the risks when you’re already rich from inherited wealth.

You seem to be mistakenly conflating getting rich with increasing wealth. Just about nobody gets rich. Many people leverage their existing wealth to gain more. Frequently, that exchange is the start of what is now defined as enshitification.

Everyone cannot do it. Fundamentally its easy: Have money and pick something to middleman. Waste capital until you ‘disrupt’ that flow. ???. Maybe profit. Who the fuck cares? You got yours. Repeat.

Simple: have wealth. Easy.

Step one is have money to make money. Aside from being the result of two wealthy people fucking… care to detail how so many people are checking that box?

Certainly - there ARE paths to wealth… but they are rare, risk heavy, and frequently are destined to be prey to a resource rich competitor.

A lot of it has to do with over-promising and under-delivering. The rest is marketing.

I’m hearing ‘once you have money do…’

Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from? Pray, tell - what do they come for?

Before that is even a factor you must either be first - with research and development … and manufacturing… and distribution… or better. Or cheaper! Or able to undercut the competition.

Of the things mentioned… I seem to be struggling to find the element lacking a substantial financial investment.

Care to tell me where that gullible userbase is coming from?

They’re not all gullible. A lot of VC types are obsessive gamblers, they’ll throw money at anything that sounds like it might have a high return.

Pray, tell - what do they come for?

That’s where the marketing comes in. Elon is pretty good at selling these big ideas, making them sound futuristic and world-changing. He not only sells those ideas to VCs, but also to the government. A lot of his businesses have pulled in substantial government contract money. The public rarely gets any return from those tax dollars.

VC won’t give you the time of day if you lack a product or platform. This isnt go-fund-me or r/wsb. VC appear to bet big but are frequently pretty well informed and diversified. Their big bets aren’t much from their prospective… and frequently will be the first to squeeze “their due” from a failing venture.

I dont see how Elon makes a good example for this. If anything it supports what I said:

Elon is wealthy. He has a platform. He has shit he’s bought and is reselling snake oil from those things. He’s not poofing something from nothing.

Most? Can anyone name anything smart he’s done in years?

Finally deleted she who shall not be named from my address book.

Do I win?

I used to be surprised at how stupid billionaires can be. But, then I remembered they don’t actually do anything where they work, and the real employees run behind them and clean up their messes. When they stick their fingers in the works, they fuck it up, Cybertruck being one example.

Third generation curse.

I personally believe the cybertruck was a designer who was making fun of musk. He submitted a pinewood derby car he made when he was 7.

Its the literal emperors new clothes.

Most of what musk does is dumb.

People are dumber than him though, for example there are plenty of idiots here who share content from his platforms

Why? You don’t find it convenient to say “X, formerly Twitter”? I think it just rolls off the tongue! /s

It seems like maybe the commenters here thus far are missing the (obvious from the title) fact that this is not affiliated with Musk or “X” at all? I admire the aggressiveness of this move and I’ll be rooting for them.

Seems pretty obvious it’s not related to Musk or X. However, it’s just another proprietary social network. We are all familiar with the pattern now. Proprietary network and investors eventually means enshitification.

That’s pretty funny. And the trust thing is a cool idea (devils in the details though). If they committed to federation I’d be onboard.

I hope this takes off and people start using “tweet” and “twitter” again and it makes “x” completely irrelevant like his Hitler salute should have

Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

…As a “founder”; we’ll see how long that lasts

but til then at least, I’m out too

Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

Well, they need something to pay the lawyers with once Musk takes notice.

Edit: I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article” and found out that they’ve already been sued, though it’s still not entirely settled.

I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

Spread the word my brother! You’ve got to let everyone know about this new fad!

I read it but honestly, probably 80% of the time I do not. Because articles are very often full of pop ups and ads and tracking and paywalls, and are unnecessarily verbose (most can be summarized in 1-2 sentences), and are just republishing someone else’s work while adding nothing, and simultaneously devoid of useful information or any actual sources.

Some of that can be solved with Firefox and unblock.

100% can be solved by knowingly making a glaringly obviously false claim about the topic and someone will correct you in a dickish tone while citing the article

Works for me 😏

Your grandad’s AI summary, if you will.

I’ve seen AI summaries that looked like the AI had not read the article.

In fairness, that could be said of some of the know-it-all summaries as well. 😅

I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

What dark magic is this

I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

This is liberal propaganda FAKE NEWS

How do I learn this power?

This here is an excellent guide:

Edit: I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

Jokes aside: I think it’s great that you read the article, then went back to both acknowledge that it covered your point and admit that you didn’t before.

I’ve just discovered this interesting concept called “reading the article”

Wait. Is that allowed?

Are we sure it’s not mostly still bots on Twitter? I deleted my account back then and have not been back.

At least, not willingly back, since some people still hyperlink to Twitter directly rather than just sharing screenshots of whatever the content was. So you click the text hyperlink thinking it’s to a web article, only for it to bring you to some random string of tweets visibly displayed in the least logical order.

Oh I’m positive it’s mainly bots and morons on x

Sounds like a grift.

Edit: it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

They probably need the money to pay for their AI-based “fact-checking”:

A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

Using a technology that’s known for making shit up, for fact-checking, is so dumb, but it will probably bring in investors because AI.

Every tweet

Poop emoji - this has been fact checked but can not be independently verified due to lack of context

Do they expect everything posted to be just news and information that can be fact-checked? Is this AI going to fact-check my opinions and shitposts too?

The homepage feels like AI slop too.

AI is very good at classification

“I just watched movie. It sucked!”

“Beep boop. According to trustworthy, verifiable sources, movie does not suck. Sanction : immediate ban.”

Dude reread that post.

“I hope this takes off and makes the Nazi platform irrelevent….but not for $20. I’m okay with Nazis for $20.”

I’m poor.

Same. I’m not calling you cheap. I’m pointing out that saying $20 to pop a Nazi’s balloon shouldn’t be an offensive ask.

Yeah, everyone is outraged at being a product when using free services, but then also outraged at paid ones.

I’m a bit suspicious of how they want to implement scoring, I feel like it’s either going to be gamed by users or rigged by owners, but otherwise it looks fine as an idea and as a replacement for xitter

Given that it’s charging an entry fee right now, and is VC backed and corpo controlled…

Probably a fash - or at least neoliberal - app already. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, no more and no less.

Let them eat eachother.

$20 isn’t just $20 in most countries around the world.
For some it is more than they can make in a month. Tho those people probably never seen the Internet.

I hope that Mastodon takes off and makes the Nazi platform irrelevant. For free. Independently of corporate and investor goodwill.

what what term do people use for tweets on shitter now? just “posts”?

Xhit

Tweets

x-crete

twitter.now

vibe coded slop asking for $20 bucks to sign up… i think I’m okay

That site was blocked by spectrum when I tried it

Lol

You can’t pay me enough to click on that link.

Oh fuck this is embarrassing

Probably a pre-emptive block to stop scam sites from using domain that are similar.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen that many em dashes ever. Not even in the most copy/paste AI slop wall of text. Holy moly.

Wow you were not kidding. Some of them are extra awkward and unnatural too. It’s almost a parody of what slop text looks like.

We believe people should have more control over what they see — and more transparency about the information in front of them.

An early illustration of the idea — you decide how much low-trust noise reaches your feed:

people start using “tweet” and “twitter” again

I never stopped

No one else did either

I called it X-twitter. I didn’t really use “tweet” though; mostly because I tend to talk about toots more than tweets.

I tend to talk about my toots after I eat a can of spicy chili beans right out the can

it cost $20 to join?

Shit, that’s twice as much as it used to cost to join Something Awful, and I bet you don’t even get access to furry porno.

I’d still be hesitant if they paid me 20$ to join.

it cost $20 to join?! I’m out

Yep, I can’t spend the money now, which is probably true for a lot of people, and I’m definitely gonna forget this is a thing by the time it’s free or I have the money, which is probably true for a lot of people.

Doesn’t appear to be federated. No reason to leave Mastodon.

Let me save you some trouble: It costs $20 to make an account.

The real power move here would be to grab the domain name and run a free Mastodon instance off of it.

X registered and still owns Twitter according to the USPTO in class 38, 41, and 45.

The payment service applied for class 36, 41, 42. Class 41 is duplicate and a problem…

That said, X will have to prove its use in commerce to renew if contested and has a duty to defend it’s brand. If my limited knowledge serves… Best luck.

This makes me wonder how the deno targeting Oracle to free the JavaScript trademark process is coming along. It’s been a while since I read something from it.

I think that many people have moved on from commercial social media, I know that I certainly have.

Unless they are Federated, they are DOA. Maybe someone can create a Mastodon server from the ashes of their IP when they go under.

catodon.rocks/?tl=all.servers is cooler.

Priceless

However, in an April 2026 hearing, US District Court Judge Colm Connolly gave a tentative ruling from the bench that X seemed to have given up intellectual property claims over the word “tweet” and the Twitter bird logo—and possibly even on the word “Twitter” as well. The judge has yet to issue a written order.

For Coates, who serves as Twitter’s new general counsel and previously worked in the same role during the pre-Musk era, the judge’s words were enough to serve as a green light.

A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

Lol, they added ‘Grok is this true’ to the entire platform, just dead on arrival.

Which is what could get them lawsuits. Such a dumb move.

Oh just want I want, another microblogging platform which algorithms to tell me what to think and what to be upset about.

Social media confusion intensifies.

“We are a small company, we have investors, and we have a product,” Stephen Coates, one of Operation Bluebird’s cofounders, told Ars.

A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

Nuff said

A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

oh wow i can’t see how this could go wrong! /s

the whole site honestly reeks of vibecoded in an afternoon too. still extremely funny tho, i hope they win their case

“Veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short)

Sounds like normal human speech

I can give a lot of benefit of doubt to independent open source projects feeling vibecoded or ai assisted, I’ve had to partly try and get into it myself because the job market currently just demands showcases for that in the portfolio.

But the moment they ask money and get corporate, all bets are off. Fuck that. When it becomes “serious” like that, it should also be serious in how it’s built and presented. And gating something built using a tool trained on public corpus and the shared knowledge of the humankind, in good and bad, behind closed source and payments is exactly the kind of shit that makes it feel wrong too, not just embarrassing or questionable.

At this point I’ve had to accept some ai use in development is unavoidable when looking at cool projects, I use a tui editor called fresh that smells absolutely vibecoded, but it actually is decent and in my experience best in class for non-modal. So I am starting to feel less and less embarrassed or suspicious as a gut reaction, when I see one, and more inquisitive if I am interested, otherwise just move on without extra feelings about it. Unless it’s obvious slop that is. There are tiers to that shit too.

But if it’s closed source and paid for, it just feels lazy, embarrassing and actively annoying to me…

Twitter for tweets and X for twats.

I like Xitter (shitter) and Xeets (shits)

New logo looks like shit compared to the old one

The original twitter bird was inspired by a third party app called Twitterific. They didn’t really use a bird, and blue, before it, IIRC.

It was also originally Twittr. Like Flickr. And Letterboxd.

And Grindr

A man of taste…

For $20? No thanks.

I didn’t like Twitter enough to join it when it didn’t cost $20.

I was stoked back when it first came out. ‘I can be snarky to a million strangers and promote my writing!?’ But even back in the '10s most followers were bots and any real people engaging in my posts were drowned by digital pedantry.

Yeah i can see it getting a couple of thousand people on board then stagnating like bluesky

xkcd.com/927/

Twitter 2

Ooh

Gemini fact checking

Awww

Yay, another centralized service owned by investors. And they want to build on “trust” lmao. Fuck off.

but it’s got AI fact checking! /s

Damn if it only fediverse user snagged the domain. It will be fun watching Elon seeth about it

Fortunately this probably irks Mulk Nose as it is.

(Also “se on mulk” works if you speak Finnish. Roughly translating to “it’s (or he’s, in informal spoken Finnish) a dic”, mulkku being the actual word for dick (for both penis and someone being an asshole.)

I’m already doing well here so i’ll pass.

2022: Come on, it’s just 8$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.

2026: Come on, it’s just 20$ it’s basically the price of a coffee.

2030: Come on, it’s just 50 bottle caps, it’s basically the price of a coffee.

2050: What’s coffee?

:(

Literally every year since the internet was created: the dollar sign goes before the number, my dude.

Didn’t know since we don’t follow this convention where I’m from.

Shrugs

Every one of these symbols goes before the number: $€£¥₹

Where are you from where it comes after? What currency do you use?

The only time this comes after the number, that I am aware of, is when you use abbreviations like USD or EUR instead of the symbol.

It’s language specific. In english it comes before the number. In many other languages it comes after.

Where are you from? In English it’s always the case that you put the dollar sign before the number.

Is it that relevant in this day and age? I was taught you put £ (or whatever currency you’re using) first when you’re writing so Johnny Fraudster can’t turn your 100£ into 1100£.

That all feels a bit immaterial on the web.

Yes, it’s relevant in this day and age, because it’s still incorrect to do it the other way (at least in English and with $£¥ and a couple others, as another commenter pointed out).

When I read “20$” my first thought is that the person writing it didn’t pay attention in elementary school.

And being lenient about it on the web leads to the behavior leaking into the real world on things like shop signs.

Don’t even get me started on people who (mostly IRL) write things like “0.99¢” which makes me want to give them a cent and tell them to keep the change.

Now think about how much worse it is for every non-English western language! But good luck with your endeavour.

Thanks! Yeah I guess it might be hard for some people, but I speak some French and Spanish and it’s not hard for me to remember to ¡use proper exclamation points in Spanish! or «use guillemets instead of quotation marks in French». This feels like the same sort of thing.

I don’t speak english natively. That’s why I didn’t know, yeah.

Hence the underline under the 00 cents/pence on a check/cheque.

The dollar sign in English, maybe. But other languages and currencies have the symbol after the value, so it’s easy to get confused

I understand that it’s different in other languages, but I often see this behavior from native US Americans who only speak English.

A new and notable feature is the automated fact-checking tool, a Gemini-based “veracity engine for real-time analysis” (“Vera” for short), which runs on every tweet.

Bwahahahaa

Really? The Gemini that got Google sued and found liable for the misinformation it spread? That’s who you wanna trust to check for “veracity”?

I’m not paying a $20 entry fee into a walled garden that wastes energy and water to have a text processor guess whether my arrangement of words resembles its training material closely enough.

Because AI boosters made people believe not using AI/not wanting to engage with AI generated output is an extremist position, so you must use AI, just read the output, and maybe rewrite it.

I like using AI for coding (no, I don’t blindly commit massive features), but any time I ask it questions that don’t have super clear-cut answers obvious to the layman from a quick google search, it tends to give “good enough” answers which are actually “nowhere near”.

Go ask it (well, really, google search) something to do with tuning an Audi 3.0 tdi ASB or BMK engine and it’ll think you have a nice Garrett turbo that’s easy to build hybrids from and a weak CP4 pump that can implode on you and take out the entire fuel system… Whereas you actually have a weak ass BorgWarner turbo that can’t support bigger internals and a super strong CP3 pump because it was shamelessly using forum threads about the newer versions with the 4 digit codes (CDYA, CASA, etc) as the source.

These are the things you easily know when you’ve either read a lot of forum threads, or peeked under the hood of one of these engines. But most AI tools’ web search tends to just look at the first threads it finds and deem that good enough.

It’s a text generator that strings together plausible word sequences. It doesn’t actually understand what an engine or a turbo is beyond the contexts and constellations in which those words frequently occur. It has no reliable way to tell which parts of the prompt are technically critical and need to match exactly.

In that way, it’s not too different from laypeople like me: I have no idea about turbos and pumps either. I still might figure out that I need to check for the specific model and engine, but without knowkng exactly what I’m dealing with, chances are I might end up trusting the same (wrong) results.

I would assume if you include the keywords BorgWarner and CP3 pump, the more specific context might bias the probability space of likely answers towards more relevant results. That makes it a potentially useful assistant for people who already have that level of expertise and are just looking for specific answers on particular cases… except you’d still have to read the actual sources to make sure.

Basically, it could serve as a more sophisticated search engine for natural language, an iteration on previous query processing and correlation technologies. If I don’t need to remember the exact wording or sender of a mail about a specific topic, a model trained on the terminology might pick out rough matches based on related words without needing to get the exact keywords right.

Frankly, I think that’s the most sensible application of LLMs: find sources, not facts. Using it for fact checking is like skating on a recently frozen lake where you can’t tell which parts are solid enough to carry you and which ones will suddenly break.

Ah but the thing is, the sources it finds are themselves wrong. They’re talking about different things. If it finds the right sources, the information is most likely pretty good.

It’s entirely possible that this could still be tuned somehow, but the way it is now, I wouldn’t trust anything that comes out of it unless I know enough to verify the output myself, meaning it’s pretty useless to laymen (which is whom a “veracity” bot would be for)

Ah but the thing is, the sources it finds are themselves wrong. They’re talking about different things. If it finds the right sources, the information is most likely pretty good.

That’s what I was trying to get at, yeah: The word-correlator can’t tell the difference because it can’t tell which part of the prompt is critical for the difference. It also can’t judge whether the sources themselves are accurate about the things they’re actually talking about. It find sources that seem related, then aggregates some likely response from those sources and spits it out. By its own metrics and limitations, that has to be “good enough” (but as you say, may be wildly wrong).

My suspicion is that adding more specific terms to the prompt may increase the textual “distance” between the fitting results and the irrelevant ones, thus tilting the source selection towards the more accurate match, but that requires you to know those specific terms in the first place.

It’s entirely possible that this could still be tuned somehow

With a general model? I doubt it.

A subject-specific model could probably be tweaked to recognise particular tokens and assign them more weight. Depending on the subject, you might be able to add pre-processing logic to crossreference certain keywords (like model and engine type) with some objective database (like a table describing which pumps a given motor might have, if that makes sense?).

You could also pick the training material more diligently to ensure you only have qualified, reliable sources for that subject. That would require a lot of work, since you also need enough material for the model to be representative.

And you’d have to do that for every specialised field out there.

I wouldn’t trust anything that comes out of it unless I know enough to verify the output myself, meaning it’s pretty useless to laymen (which is whom a “veracity” bot would be for)

Hit the nail on the head there. For all we know, it’ll “correct” facts by doubling down on common misconceptions.

As a Cummins owner, it makes me smile to know the CP3 has earned its reputation in other circles.

I once drove to the next city 60 miles away at 55 mph, because that’s as much fuel as the CP3 could force past my failed low pressure fuel pump. If I had a CP4 I would have been stuck at the side of the road with a big problem instead.

it tends to give “good enough” answers which are actually “nowhere near”.

The problem is it’s doing this when coding too. The resulting screed often looks plausible if you only look at it at the surface level, but once you dig in to it, it’s “nowhere near” and usually full of missed conditions on the unhappy path in particular.

So, I’m just checking…

1. It is not open source?
2. It uses AI to “Fact-Check”?
3. It costs 20$ to join, and possibly more later?

Well, they have chosen interesting path those people behind this thing.

If only it was just a Mastodon instance (was thinking about creating “Twatter”, as a joke).

They’ll fail pretty quickly I bet, so the Mastodon instance could still happen later!

This will never amount to more than a cash grab.

Sadly, true.

sounds like Shitler himself launched the “new site” for some extra money grabbing.

If it wasn’t $20 to join, I might have tried it. But considering they haven’t even finished their core case saying whether or not they’re even allowed to use the branding yet, and they’re trying to get $20 or $40 out of every new user, I’m going to pass.

I will check back at a later date to see its progress, but right now I don’t think it’s worth it.

These guys are a bunch of morons. All of the comments here are proving as to why.

• Associates with AI
• Wants money to use it
• Doesn’t factor that Twitter might not entirely be available after all
• Uses Musk’s other imprints, like Grok, on it which may subject them to fail
• More centralized social media is not what we need

I’ll give it a few months before they actually are sued into oblivion, to which they’ll have the biggest pikachu shocked faces possible.

I did always think it was stupid that he bought a site with pretty great branding (twitter/tweets/the bird graphics etc) and immediately got rid of most of that branding.

The worst part for me personally (and maybe nobody else) is I love the band the xx but wearing their merch these days makes it seem like I maybe support anything musk based.

I can relate with my love of the (now disbanded) post-metal band Isis 😅

I had a cat named Isis, thankfully dead before the antics of those roustabouts hit Western media.

i don’t care about that social media platform. but i do hope that new twitter becomes more popular than musk twitter. from a technical standpoint they both seem shit with AI and pay to play. but at least its not musk and i would hope he gets quite a bit pissed if new twitter takes a good slice of his matket.

All the criticisms are completely valid and yet I’m so fucking down for this.

Oh! Oh…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blue_Bird

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bluebird

www.cia.gov/…/CIA-RDP83-01042R000800010003-1.pdf

www.amnesty.org/en/documents/asa20/017/1990/en/

They didn’t do any research before?

He gave up the name so that we stop using it to refer to his pile of shit.

A Masto instance would have been cool. But that is just garbage.

mastodon (like lemmy) is the epitome of uncool

It’s running through servers, they objectively must stay cool.

I assume those servers are poor people servers and run at 100% cpu and 90 degrees

What the fuck is wrong with you?

you know you’re not forced to be here, right? 🤫

As soon as a better reddit clone comes along I’m GONE

But I doubt it, even Mastodon which is German got overrun by Americans and American politics

Americans are EVERYWHERE

let me guess, you’re one of the ones that got banned from reddit “for no reason”

I’m on reddit right now? Just having a quick read of this:

www.reddit.com/r/oldreddit/…/thoughts_on_lemmy/

🤣

why do you think i care about random redditors on an obscure subreddit?

if you weren’t banned, you’d be upvoting those comments :D

Going on lemmy to brag that you still use reddit isn’t the gotcha you think it is.

im not bragging, im laughing at you guys

you’re the uncool losers of the internet which is how you like it until someone points it out

Yet here you are, posting comments 🙃

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

what?

DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT!

There’s no door here, this is a website

oh look, an AfD member!

What 3 braincells rubbed together to make this comment

Merz? Is that you? Building the next strawman so you can keep ruining the country next election?

You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right? Lots of instance barely have anything American, especially Asian instance.

You know that Fediverse is decentralized, right?

OH REALLY? NO WAY

I HAD NO IDEA

I’ll be honest Americentrism annoys me too, but we can hardly complain when we’re on lemmy.world of all places.

America is the largest Anglophone country so you can’t really complain about them being numerous on an international English-speaking audience, not exactly their fault they did a lot of baby booming in the late '40s.

And the boomers had a bunch of kids that are all tech savvy and in their 30s-40s, so you know, the primary userbase for Reddit/Twitter/Lemmy/Mastodon etc.

Is voat still around? You might fit in there.

Touch grass

Should’ve been a Nitter instance

• Cash grab on an old name and hoping people pony up the $20 to join it.
• Not using ActivityPub or ATProto.

Yeah, it’s already DOA.

If anyone is serious about creating a new centralised social network these days, they have already lost.

Somewhere in there is step 3: profit

I want to start a business that fleeces these rubes, how does an average man break into the bullshit game

Shame. A new Twitter that supports all the open protocols would have been cool. Fediverse with a name people recognise.

Isn’t that just Mastodon?

Mastodon is not called Twitter, and the vast majority of people have no idea what it is, unfortunately. A Mastodon instance called Twitter would be a great idea, although I think Mastodon doesn’t support all the protocols like Friendica does. But Friendica is too unlike Twitter.

I suppose that could potentially drag Mastodon’s developer into a legal fight (if X were to sue them), which would be costly and a distraction.

Not mastodon devs but the instance owners

I have a feeling that Musk is gonna sue who he’s gonna sue.

Mh yeah you are quite right i guess, he’s dumb and rich

It may well be intended as a serious attempt but personally I’m just going to view it as trolling/a gimmick, in which case I don’t care how shit the actual platform is. Seems to be more about making a point against Musk than getting a serious userbase.

Would be funny if Twitter/X Supports ATProto. Maybe also don’t give up the X Brand and you could interact with Bluesky users or twitter or X Handles and if you Bridge to the Fediverse yeah that works to. I could really delete my x/Twitter Profile and say. Hey My new Handle is my bridged Mastodon Account.

and the sign up doesn’t even work, just 404s

Oh lol. It must have been because their firebase tokens were exposed and people were able to get around the waitlist/payment and sign up for an account.

Take a look: https://x.com/Patrosi73/status/2093079851393524087 (I would link to Xcancel/Nitter… but space karen decided to wig out)

Twitter, formally X, formally Twitter

Is Trump-Hitler2028 still available? I will settle for hotBillionaireGulag.

Still shit

A comment from a reader of that article said: “Running some real ‘Gandalf the White/Twitter as it was meant to be’ energy.”

And I can agree.

Fucking lol

Yeah. “Lets try centralized algorithmic corporate social media again.”

Im sure this attempt will end up just as wholesome.

Also, with a website that’s clearly designed by AI.

What could go wrong

Gonna be digg 2.0 (or 3.0?) all over again.

I’m not claiming Twitter is great.

But this is obviously going to fail, always was obviously going to fail. It’s a PR stunt, nothing more.

Twitter will sue them, they’ll settle for giving up the name and some token fine, and hopefully they’re on the map. Or, their hail mary long shot will pay off and they’ll get to call themselves twitter in which case holy shit they’re golden. That’s the strategy.

It’s stupid- they’ll lose in court and I doubt whatever they offer is more compelling than what’s already out there.

It’s stupid

Definitely.

they’ll lose in court

I’m not sure they will, genuinely. They intentionally abandoned the domain name for the website… and they’re no longer using the logo or name anywhere on their product, or corporate documentation.

The case that it’s up for grabs is actually decently strong.

Disney didn’t use Steamboat Willie for a while, they didn’t lose it…

This is more akin to Disney saying, “We hate mice! Disney is now a chain of casinos and we’re rebranding to 🅱️!”

Could almost be similar to the situation that forced Musk to buy Twitter in the first place, because he of course tweeted that Twitter would never be Twitter again and they were ‘getting rid of the bird’”.

There are more details in the article and older articles linked as well.

Steamboat Willie is an example of Copyright. Twitter is an example of a Trademark. A Copyright is much much much easier to defend than a Trademark.

www.uspto.gov/…/trademark-patent-copyright

Not sure if we really need more social media.

Ohhh Noos! The branding I choose which no one wanted or ever adopted is tarnished by my own actions from the last two years… Let’s rebrand and hopefully the user base will no longer associate my actions with this service anymore!

Read the article next time. Another company claims X abandoned the name and is launching a competetor using “Twitter” “Tweets” and Twitter.now url.

They’re probably trying to give Phoenix vibes with the new logo, but I’m not Pheelin’ it.

i can’t even resolve the app.twitter.now subdomain, off to a great start

Imo reviving Twitter as paid ai slop is just making a mockery of it.

Imo twitter was always a joke

FAQ was dead linking when I clicked on it earlier, too.

Twitter deserves the mockery. And this attempt too.

Yeah i’il keep using mastodon and bluesky, also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me

Bluesky is also owned by a corporation and, like Twitter, could sell to a fascist billionaire whenever they find it profitable to do so.

X vs Bluesky is a great microcosm of American team-sports politics. Mastodon is something actually new.

Yeah that’s true but perfect is the enemy of good, Mastodon isn’t gaining much traction so my hope is that at least we can get a federated protocol, whatever it is

Perfect is the enemy of good, but so is the desire for convenience.

Mastodon gains less traction because it doesn’t have an advertising budget, unlike Bluesky. Because Bluesky is owned by a corporation.

Is Bluesky federated? I thought it wasn’t. Tumblr also said they were going to, but then just… didn’t.

Yeah it does, though it uses their own protocol (ATprotocol) they open sourced it too

The AT Protocol was open from the start. It’s not the issue and is actually rather clever in parts, in my limited understanding.

The issue has more been that there was no way to run another server than the main one at first, and then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate. I understand this is now something of the past, but I don’t think I’ve ever come across a link to a bluesky post that wasn’t on bsky.app.

Looking a bit into it, it looks like all you need to do is host a Personal Data Server (PDS): github.com/bluesky-social/pds?tab=readme-ov-file#…

then that you could but it couldn’t interoperate

So now you can? I hope so…
Anyway yeah, i never seen someone self host their own instance even though it should be possible

PDS is just one part of the whole thing. It’s just the place where your data is stored. Almost all other parts of the network are dependent on Bluesky’s stack. Even the alternatives like Blacksky and Eurosky are still dependent of Bluesky’s implementations like the Appview. So if Bluesky goes down, it affects the other services (in some way) too. One can host a PDS for cheap, but if you want a proper social media service (with post history, search etc), it is kind of expensive. There are other appviews, but for some reason Bluesky going down causes issues in Blacksky, Eurosky etc

I did not know that. Thanks for clarifying that part!

Bluesky is federated if you have $10,000,000

Mastodon has a cultural problem… too woke, too many queers and freaky people, autistics, and activitists shilling for lame causes or selling (needless, silly) things. In the real world these people are 3-5% of the population. On the Fediverse, they are 75-90% of the population. Not a place that the other 95-98% of the population really wants to be. The mentally ill, each one given a bullhorn.

You look like a mentally ill not them, sorry

Being aware of stuff is a fault?!

Bro seems to forget the early twitter when writting ts

Wow it’s been so long since I’ve seen so many faults in one comment.

Do you have someone you can talk to about these feelings? It sounds like you have some repressed feelings in there.

Yeah but ppl are on bluesky

who needs people when you can talk to leftist nerds ?

Have you met people?

After seeing what happened to Twitter following the purchase, I think anyone who buys Bluesky would be very wary about trashing the brand in the same way.

Do not underestimate the power of capitalism

Don’t just look at the company profits. After Musk bought Twitter, Trump won and Musk gained direct access to the government. I think, that’s a pretty good return on the investment.
But most importantly: Elon now has his own big media company. No longer are the other rich guys ridiculing him because he doesn’t have his own media empire. He’s now a real full member in the club.

Unless it’s Larry Ellison, or Elon Musk again, or one of the other many technofascist billionaires with money to burn in pursuit of social engineering.

also, they already have investors so it’s dead at birth for me

Launching with the immediate intent for profit screams either a scam (Especially with Musk being kind to give up the name, massive red flag).

Yeah

Smells like deception. Please come to our “New” site with the same name but this one is totally not uncool or handing all your personal info to Musk.

But spend more money? $8 on that piece of shit “X” site. Fucking joke show.

But you can pay $20 for the premium instantaneous social media aggregate algorithm site! You’ll get all the top paid for profit sponsored posts first before anyone else! Just imagine retweeting your friends minutes before they see this million dollar donated Pepsi ad that is collaborating with Oreo! Whooooaaaaaa! You’ll be the most popular person in your friend group for 15 seconds! But make sure you share first or else you’ll be ostracized by everyone because you didn’t pay an extra $9.99 for ultra fast retweet privilege!

Coates and his coterie

Hah

“Early Access is open. $20 to join, $40+ to fight.” From twitter.now

xD. The original twitter was free!

And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter. I never used the site in the first place, but that’s besides the point.

imo musk is a deadname now after he came out as a nazi. Now its just the nazi or space nazi if there are multiple nazi’s in the subject being discussed

I joined when it was the only way to win a pair of tickets to The Colbert show’s last taping. I didn’t win, I’ve never opened the site again. My username is like “adifficultpoo” lol

And I’m going to keep dead naming X as Twitter until Musk stops dead naming his daughter.

I’ll dead name Twitter long after Musk stops dead naming his daughter, or he himself is dead. X is a stupid fucking name.

We both know Musk is never going to stop dead naming his daughter, so same difference.

ngl, who cares? I’ve never seen somebody going rabid over calling it Twitter.

Yeah. Not falling for that.

Twitter was awful before Musk bought it. Hard pass.

Ah yes, just what the world needs: another Twitter.

If nothing else we know this project will piss off Elon and that’s always a plus.

hahaha, this is the first thing I though after the idiot changed the iconic name to nothing, go twitter! (no, I’m not joining bluebird, but I like the trust threshold idea)

Paid early access? I think I’ll pass…

Finally Twitter’s name and logo isn’t a ripoff of the X Windowing System(maybe)

I still call elon’s BBS twitter (on purpose).

If not decentralized, it’s a no go…

The site looks vibe coded. It’s possible they just bought the trademark, quickly set up a site and hope to capitalize on the reputation of former Twitter.
The $20 and $40 early access certainly makes it seem like it. Even if that isn’t the case, time has shown that centralized social media has flaws so idealists will just stay with Mastodon while the people that want a large user base and easy of use will just use BlueSky instead. IMO there is no market aside from a possible gofundme-invention type exit scam.