maybe i should build something like omarchy that isn't, you know, omarchy

a lot of people do not understand what omarchy actually *is* and why it is making progress where traditional distributions have failed.

they focus on the fact that omarchy *is* a vanity distro, that it is basically a collection of configuration files and some shell scripts gluing them together.

and omarchy is that.

but omarchy is also marketing and devrel, and a consolidation of the linux experience into a product format.

in fact, that is most of what omarchy actually *is*.

building a technical community that understands & executes on these things would be the goal of what i propose building

in essence omarchy is a mechanism to take linux and turn it into a product, in the same way that macOS takes darwin and turns it into a product.

traditional linux distributions, by comparison, aren't defined products, they are work output from technical communities, and the design of them is approached from that philosophy.

@ariadne isn't a @danirabbit 's Elementary OS also some for of product based on a linux distro ?

(Also, when you take something like Fedora Workstation / KDE I feel you get something that is an opinionated product).

@Sobex @danirabbit yes, elementaryOS is an example of a productized linux

and it is a good example

but i would not say that it reflects the lesson omarchy is teaching us

@ariadne @Sobex I’d say we’re kind of doing the opposite of Omarchy in that we do a lot of things that are not traditionally Linux-y and the prospect we’re selling isn’t, “be a leet haxor and rice your desktop”, but rather “Spend less time thinking about computer and more time doing interesting things”. The OS in elementary OS is not the product. The idea of not worrying about the OS is the product

@ariadne @Sobex which I think sometimes really disappoints that set of people who expect productized Linux. They wanted to feel like a leet haxor and use Terminal and tweak and customize things and that’s not at all what I’m selling

@danirabbit @ariadne @Sobex dunno, maybe i've been at this for too long, but to me, most distros fulfill that job, except for rolling release things....
when i set linux up for friends, there is this one week or three where they run into hardware corner cases like sleep modes or the like, and then it just works....

@nettings possible! I find that the more experience someone has with desktop Linux the more they hate elementary OS, which I see as a success indicator personally haha