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Side of slop? Bizarre AI food images jump from online to IRL menus
www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/side-slop-bizarre-ai-food-images-jump-online-irl-menus-rcna594786posted in Technology
Side of slop? Bizarre AI food images jump from online to IRL menus
www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/side-slop-bizarre-ai-food-images-jump-online-irl-menus-rcna594786Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
No picture at all would likely sell more burritos than this:
Yech, did they put trypophobia in the prompt?
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
I’m trying to figure out what leads someone to look at this and say “yes this is good” and then fucking print it, or pay to have it printed. Like, why would you just… print without even fucking looking?
Replying to @kayohtie@pawb.social
It’s so bad that I almost wonder if the person who posted it is themselves using AI (the angle of the reflected street looks off?).
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Even if that one isn’t, there have been similar verifiably real instances.
Replying to @kayohtie@pawb.social
Boss: “Corperate demand more AI. AI is the future and the future is now!”
Graphic artist: “fuck i need this job to pay for my families survival. Fuck it ‘OpenClaudPT generate a breakfast burrito’”
OpenClaudPT: “Wow that is an amazingly insightful and well reasond idea. There are not many people around who could have come up with such a fasinatingly innovative idea for a picture. Here is a picture of a cat! Hope you like it”
Graphic artist: “I didnt want a picture of a cat i wanted a picture of a breakfast burrito!”
OpenClaudPT: “Whoopsie poopsie. You are absolutly right. That is 100% my fault, i will own that one. Here is your Moon Sausage Burrito”
Graphic artist: “Fuck it! Close enough. If the boss dosent give a fuck about my work enough to let me do it then the best they are getting is a Moon Sausage Burrito. Whatever the hell that is”
Boss: “Why does the burrito look weird, oh well corporate asked for more ai and Graphic artist clearly used AI to make whatever this is. I need this job to pay for my families survival so im not going against corperate. Full send it!”
Replying to @MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz
It’s just missing a
“this needs to be at the printer before end of day and I need to review this before then.”
“Dude, it’s 3:30 pm”
“Then you better make it snappy!”
Replying to @MadPsyentist@lemmy.nz
OpenClaud is clearly an amalgam of most AI agents out there, a very accurate one.
Replying to @kayohtie@pawb.social
Malicious compliance
Replying to @kayohtie@pawb.social
Boss said add a picture, I said artist costs money, boss said “use AI” - just doin’ my job.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
No shot this is real
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Breakfast cthurrito
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
I’m reconsidering eating a burrito ever again. Fucking hell
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
I can not accept that this is a photo of a printed sign. Its unimaginable.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
I dont know if I’m more disgusted by the picture, or the price.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Cancer in a tortilla!
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Oh hell no, there’s a condition where things with holes trigger fight or flight reactions. I would set that on fire. I’ve gotten better but I can barely look at it.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
If I had Trypophobia, I would be tripping so high right now.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
ChatGPT - Prompt Here’s a fun one. Please make this supposedly real sign that was AI-generated of a burrito look like an actual tasty burrito instead of something out of a horror movie.
So my real question becomes who the hell looked at that generated image and thought we should put that on a sign for real and people will buy our food. 🤣🤣🤣
Replying to @markon@lemmy.world
It’s still really weird because even though the burrito us cut with a knife (tortilla has a clean cut), none of the stuffing is.
Oh absolutely. You’d still be crazy to use this on an actual sign 😅
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Ok, fine, but it’s ONLY $13.50, so what are you gonna do? Not buy it just because it looks like it’s actually from actual Hell? I didn’t think so
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
What in the actual fuck.
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
Did they get that burrito from the Upside Down?
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
I remember morons on Reddit screaming at me that generative tech will democratize creativity in all disciplines.
Turns out being creative is a skill in any domain that needs tending to.
Replying to @a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
Is it not creative to make a trypophobic burrito?
Replying to @Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz
yum fungus burrito, with real live fungus. the burrito left out in the heat lamp for 14days.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
You presumably make the food nearly every day.
I would imagine you probably have a phone with a built in camera.
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Do I have to spell it out?
Replying to @nulluser@lemmy.world
Maybe they suck at making the food?
Replying to @MBech@feddit.dk
Maybe they also suck at taking photos, but if I see food (or anything else) advertised with a slop image, there’s a 0.00% chance I’m buying it. It just reeks of dishonesty and laziness, plus I hate ai. With no image, I might actually buy it. I’ve actually ordered food from many a text-only menu.
Replying to @eatCasserole@lemmy.world
The only reason I may order food from a place which has pictures in their menu is if it is some kind of exotic cuisine which is mostly unfamiliar and thus I’d need a picture to understand what I’m ordering.
Otherwise, AI or not, there’s no way a restaurant with pictures in their menu is going to be decent.
Replying to @eatCasserole@lemmy.world
I don’t hate AI, but I’m also not buying that food. I’ll assume that there’s a chance they’ve never actually made that menu item before opening their restaurant if AI art is the beta they’ve got.
Food photography is actually an entire branch of photography, and a lot of the photos you have historically seen haven’t been real edible food. For example, the milk in the bowl of cereal on your cereal box? That’s usually white Elmers Glue. Because real milk won’t sit below the cereal, and will be too watery. It also allows them to precisely set the individual cereal pieces (rings, flakes, etc) in place and the glue will help prevent it from floating around.
The ketchup on a burger is usually thick red paint, applied around the edges of the rubber pickle with a syringe. Because they want to make sure the ketchup looks like it’s squeezed around the pickle (rather than being squished into the burger bun), and they want to make sure the ketchup is showing around the pickle juuuust enough to be obvious, without obscuring the pickle.
The funny part about food photography is that the methodology is largely regional. For example, Japanese audiences largely expect a burger photo to have the bun sliding off of the burger, like so:
Originally it was done to prevent the bun from obscuring any of the ingredients. But now it is a sort of cultural thing, where lots of menus do it simply because that’s what the other menus do. But it also means that Japanese burger photography is done using different materials and methods than western burger photography. But to use the second image as an example, that runny egg yolk on the right burger is probably some sort of inedible yellow paint. Because the photographer wants controllable color and consistency, and cooking is rarely consistent enough for that. The glaze on the meat is probably some kind of clear-coat rosin or spray. The egg was probably cooked hard and then sliced with a scalpel to create that perfect wedge slice for the yellow paint to be added. Etc…
Replying to @Carl@anarchist.nexus
All true and well said, but if we’re talking about some small one person or family operation with a limited budget, I’ll take a snapshot from their phone over AI slop every time.
Oh, I agree. My point was simply that if a restaurant is trying to ditch the “mom and pop” vibes and get professional photos for their menus, it’s not something that is done on a whim. It’s not just a “snap a pic with your phone and post it on your menu” type of thing if a restaurant is trying to look like more than a family owned joint.
And that’s before we even get into the actual menu design, because a well-formatted menu is designed to draw customers towards the most profitable items. All of those highlighted and “chefs special” menu choices that are in big bold bright letters in the center of the menu, with accompanying pictures? Yeah, the restaurant has done the math on the raw ingredients and prep time for each menu item, and those featured choices are the items that are most profitable for the restaurant to make. The goal is to encourage people to buy the things that make the most money. Those small menu options that are tucked away in the bottom of the menu like a footnote? Those are the least profitable. A good menu layout can increase dine-in profits by upwards of 10-20%, simply by encouraging people to order the most profitable items.
And while I don’t agree with using AI for the food images, I can see how a restaurant manager would balk at a $10k professional food photographer bill. Especially when that also requires closing the restaurant for a day, (meaning a day of lost profits) so the photographer can work with the cook staff for the photos during a dedicated photography session. Why would they eat that massive cost, when they could generate a “good enough” (meaning the majority of people won’t notice or care that it is AI) image for free in a few minutes? Again, I don’t agree with it, but I can see why a restaurant manager would see it as an attractive alternative.
Replying to @Carl@anarchist.nexus
I can understand how this business may work as I worked in graphics for years.
But still, in my opinion a good menu has no pictures: today we have this and this and this, the price is this.
That’s all I need to know and that is how I know the place is good. The moment when a restaurant needs to take pictures of their food to attract customers, I have no reason to believe their food has an acceptable quality level.
If a restaurant has enough employees as to have a manager, why would you ever go in such a place to eat? A restaurant either has an owner or it is a chain, if it is a chain the quality is not going to be good.
Replying to @Carl@anarchist.nexus
If I recall, in the US, anything in a food advert photo that is meant to come with the product – IE, the toppings of the burger – must be real food, and cannot be paint or such or that’s false advertising. The milk in cereal is provided by the consumer, so they can use the glue there. And while the ketchup is applied via syringe, it is, in fact, ketchup: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIEhDSWXeF4
What they get away with is the arrangement of the ingredients, things like splitting and spreading a pattie to make it appear larger, fluffing the choice lettuce pieces and tomato slices, using hidden toothpicks to arrange things.
It’s possible the Japanese ad you presented isn’t food at all, and just model food, like presented in shop storefronts – looking like the real thing. That steam is definitely added after the fact. It also has a bit of a sheen in spots on the bread that makes me think it’s just plastic, but I don’t think the same “false advertising” laws apply in Japan.
Replying to @kayohtie@pawb.social
Right. If you’re selling ice cream, the ice cream is ice cream. If you’re selling brownies, and there’s ice cream in the background, that ice cream is mashed potato.
They’ll also make ten burgers and pick the most photogenic one.
Not that it matters, because your burger will never look like the picture.
Replying to @Carl@anarchist.nexus
Now I need to go and get mos burger
Replying to @nulluser@lemmy.world
That’s not acceptable, that’s not professional, somebody is going to eat that burrito - are you going to file their permission to use the image of their food? Too complicated.
Replying to @nulluser@lemmy.world
But the food we make is ugly bro!
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
You sell the food already just take a fucking picture of it??
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Our countrys delivery apps are ruined by this. I remember reading that the apps actually encouraged vendors to use AI to make the pictures prettier, but of course with how easily the tool has become they are just straight out just puking AI food. Like 90% is just slop
I try to avoid restaurants with AI photos but at the same time I like to support small mom and pop joints, and I know that the ones with good actual photos of their foods are also the big restaurants
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
If I see ai slop on your menu I will add you to the already long list of places I’ll never go.
If I see AI generated images on Google Maps, Yelp, Online Websites, menus, etc I immediately pass on the restaurant. I have no idea what restaurants think showing fake images of food is going to convey to it’s customers but if they can’t get photos right then they probably can’t get proper food storage and handling correct either.
Replying to @Tim_Bisley@piefed.social
also, is that even legal?
Replying to @FiskFisk33@startrek.website
I don’t see why not when fast food places are allowed to use product images of plastic food on their menus.
Replying to @CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
I thought the rule was that it has to be at least the same components. Like mcdonalds images are super styled, but all the things on the picture are at least present pn your burger.