Torch it. Torch it before its too late.

Concrete, steel girders, and server frames don’t combust easy, unfortunately.

Not with that attitude LoL

It doesn’t need to be so, the asshole billionaires just don’t give a single fuck about anyone but themselves. They don’t even care about their kids.

🔥

It’s in one of the sunniest places in the US too. 6.0 kWh/m²/day of solar irradiance. There’s even already a relatively large solar farm in the same county.

If I were king they could run data centers with solar and fans. No outside power, no outside water.

You realize they are for sifting through the massive amount of surveillance data using AI right? They aren’t for ChatGPT. They are for categorizing and watching every person on the planet 1984 style.

Do you have a source for this?

Running an LLM is significantly less resource intensive than training it, and all indicators are that these data centers are being built to keep up the breakneck pace of companies racing to create AGI.

all indicators are that these data centers are being built to keep up the breakneck pace of companies racing to create AGI

Amazon? Nah, it has commercial interest in this, not scientific*.

Also, MAGA is pushing this like crazy, and destroying the planet in the process. For the next 10 years there’s by law practically no regulation wrt anything AI.

That said:

keep up the breakneck pace of US-American companies racing to create AGI more AI, or ELLM = even larger language models

This affects the whole world, esp. if other governments (looking at EU) simply swallow the narrative hook line sinker.

Fuck This Shit

* If you say they are chasing AGI you mean that they are willing to make decisions that will further that goal, not just further profits. And I do not believe that for one second.

I didn’t mean to imply it was scientific, any more than what OpenAI is doing is scientific. It’s all commercial.

I’m not sure what the rest of your comment is supposed to mean. They are chasing AGI. That doesn’t mean they’ll create it, of course, but that’s what they’re aiming at.

Nono, I’m sticking to my statement. If you say they are chasing AGI you mean that they are willing to make decisions that will further that goal, not just further profits. And I do not believe that for one second. I also don’t believe AGI is anywhere in the near or even medium future for us.

That said, they might say that they have such lofty goals.

I’m not going to dwell on this much longer, but your mistake is that AGI is a lofty goal, and not driven by greed.

I’ve seen your other pro-AI comments, always trying to gaslight people who you think know less than you. That is your mistake.

You consider what I’ve said to be “Pro AI”? lol

OK what is your stance towards AI? You always seem to be defending “it”

They’re literally buying up all the computing resources so that we can’t get any.

We will all have to communicate though walled gardens on dumb tablets.

They can quickly summarize vast amounts of text looking for any “undesirable” patterns using LLMs.

We will all have to rent computing time from them.

This is the point, this has been the point for a long time, it’s just that LLMs were the largest storm of “impressive to rubes” and “resource hungry”. Micron has already eliminated its consumer brand, Crucial. Hell, Peter Thiel (the Palantir guy) goes around giving talks about how “being against AI is the antichrist” just to make sure that all the remaining brainwashed sheep fall for the ruse.

This shit is not hard to see. They want to own our future entirely and they want us to pay them for the privilege.

Capitalism was a fucking mistake.

that’s my biggest worry, more data centers won’t lower the cost of LLM tokens.

The only reason they want so much compute power is to have AI agents watching and annotating everything flock cameras see.

not just license plate readers (a raspberry pi could handle that). but everything.

My paranoia is that I’m 5 years, if you protest, the police will come to arrest you with a long list of every “crime” you have committed: driving holding you phone, no seatbelt, a recipt flew out of your pockets… a long list of petty meaningless violations.

and they’ll have that list for everyone.

Wait, it does not run on solar, even partially? JFC.

edit: yep.

Amazon has confirmed its investment in a massive gas-burning power plant in Texas, meant to supply up to 7.65 gigawatts of energy to a planned data center in Pecos County. Should it come online as planned, the plant’s 35 turbines would be allowed to spew 33 million tons of CO2 a year, the NYT notes, which would easily make it the largest single fount of emissions in the country.

It would also be in stark defiance of Amazon’s stated climate goals, which center on reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2040.

🤦

Does greed know no end in this country?

Everything but run them on renewable energy.

Papa trump and his minions need their money

Did they think what would happen if the gas price goes up and their profitability is completely dependent on that?

Until it goes dark, like fibre…

“Growth and sustainability don’t have to be in opposition — in fact, our results show they reinforce each other.”

Oh yeah, makes total sense guy.

More context:

It would also be in stark defiance of Amazon’s stated climate goals, which center on reaching net-zero carbon emissions by 2040.

That’s not lost on the tech giant. But as Amazon spokesperson Margaret Callahan told the NYT, the “world looks different now than when we co-founded the climate pledge.”

“We’re being transparent about the challenges, investing in innovation, and delivering measurable results,” Callahan continued. “Growth and sustainability don’t have to be in opposition — in fact, our results show they reinforce each other.”

That is so cynical.

The USA and its legislation (10 year moratorium on all AI regulation) is what changed.

The world is continuously and slowly going in the same direction since they “pledged”. Nothing has changed there.

Have these geniuses considered burying these massive structures and build the cooling stack on top to use that heat for some other use?

Or better yet: not even building these monstrosities?

Holy Luigi!

We need Climate Action. How to nip this in the bud before they even start building the power plant. And not burning, or blowing up. That’s bad for the world.

I’m so glad I never procreated.

With any luck I’ll croak before the worst effects of these decisions manifest.

Remember that Stargate SG1 episode where they find themselves into a huge underground facility that is under attack by external forces. Jack O’Neill accepts to pilot one of their drones to help defend the complex from a wave of bombers and is infuriated to learn that the attacker’s bombers were manned while he believed they were unmanned.

At the end it turns out the facility was actively poisoning the entire planet, threatening to wipe out all life and the “attackers” were simply the people of the rest of the world trying to stop it.

That is what the Amazon data center is to me.

Amazon: “but but but! we have over 50,000 electric delivery vans, and we sent Capt Kirk to space!”