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Amazon's New AI Data Center Is So Enormous That It Appears It Will Become the Largest Single Source of Pollution in the United States
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Amazon's New AI Data Center Is So Enormous That It Appears It Will Become the Largest Single Source of Pollution in the United States
futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/amazon-data-center-largest-pollution-source-texas-usaIt’s in one of the sunniest places in the US too. 6.0 kWh/m²/day of solar irradiance. There’s even already a relatively large solar farm in the same county.
If I were king they could run data centers with solar and fans. No outside power, no outside water.
Replying to @dan1101@lemmy.world
You realize they are for sifting through the massive amount of surveillance data using AI right? They aren’t for ChatGPT. They are for categorizing and watching every person on the planet 1984 style.
Do you have a source for this?
Running an LLM is significantly less resource intensive than training it, and all indicators are that these data centers are being built to keep up the breakneck pace of companies racing to create AGI.
all indicators are that these data centers are being built to keep up the breakneck pace of companies racing to create AGI
Amazon? Nah, it has commercial interest in this, not scientific*.
Also, MAGA is pushing this like crazy, and destroying the planet in the process. For the next 10 years there’s by law practically no regulation wrt anything AI.
That said:
keep up the breakneck pace of US-American companies racing to create
AGImore AI, or ELLM = even larger language models
This affects the whole world, esp. if other governments (looking at EU) simply swallow the narrative hook line sinker.
Fuck This Shit
* If you say they are chasing AGI you mean that they are willing to make decisions that will further that goal, not just further profits. And I do not believe that for one second.
I didn’t mean to imply it was scientific, any more than what OpenAI is doing is scientific. It’s all commercial.
I’m not sure what the rest of your comment is supposed to mean. They are chasing AGI. That doesn’t mean they’ll create it, of course, but that’s what they’re aiming at.
Nono, I’m sticking to my statement. If you say they are chasing AGI you mean that they are willing to make decisions that will further that goal, not just further profits. And I do not believe that for one second. I also don’t believe AGI is anywhere in the near or even medium future for us.
That said, they might say that they have such lofty goals.
I’m not going to dwell on this much longer, but your mistake is that AGI is a lofty goal, and not driven by greed.
I’ve seen your other pro-AI comments, always trying to gaslight people who you think know less than you. That is your mistake.
You consider what I’ve said to be “Pro AI”? lol
OK what is your stance towards AI? You always seem to be defending “it”
Replying to @A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
My stance towards AI is complicated. I think it’s an amazing technology with the potential to change the world for the better, but also the potential to change the world for the worse. I don’t trust it in the hands of giant for-profit corporations, and think we should, among other things, legislate some regulations to ensure transparency and prevent it from being used in ways harmful to privacy and democracy. I also acknowledge that technological advances don’t go in reverse, and AI is never going away.
Does that answer your question?
It does.
If not for the environmental impact which makes it an absolute no-no for the foreseeable future I might even agree with you except that my divided stance already starts one step earlier:
I think it’s an amazing technology
Maybe it was that 10 years ago but I find it hard to see it that way when people constantly state that they don’t even know what’s happening inside it (black box) and that whatever development has happened since then was heavily if not completely influenced by interests of power & money.
That said, there might be some models out there that have little or nothing to do with the mainstream development, and I recognize that, but I would not call them AI writ large - that’s what Big Tech does as described above.