@bitsoffreedom Meta does not want people to see this video. I repeat: Meta does NOT want people to see this video.

@Roelmaalderink Substack wil hem vast wel! @bitsoffreedom

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

Goed voor het Streisand effect. ⤴️

Bedank(t) Meta!

#gluurbrillen

@Roelmaalderink I guess some Meta employees are shy. @bitsoffreedom

@Roelmaalderink Bedankt voor dit initiatief, naast dat het heel effectief is om dit op deze manier te doen, heb ik ook hartelijk gelachen om te inhoud en probeer ik het te verspreiden. @bitsoffreedom

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom drie hoeraatjes voor het Streisand Effect!

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom #barbarastreisand effect full in ‘view’ for #meta that do not want this #media exposure for their #pervGlasses

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
Droeftoeters daar bij Meta, maar what else is new. Misschien ook deze app even onder de aandacht brengen: https://github.com/yjeanrenaud/yj_nearbyglasses

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom what was the 'reason'?

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

"Asbest is niet het probleem, het zijn de mensen die er in zagen die het probleem zijn" 🤣😅

#metaglasses

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom its cool but why are you harrasing employees? xD their work is already shit as they work for META.

Its kind of like going to Booking and asking: "How do you like sponsoring genocide?!!".

I think it would be better if you hunt for manager of whole META branch or something. Regular employees work for money just as we all do.

#metaglasses #meta

@grayrattus
Managers are regular employees too. Don't think anyone can tell from their coats what their function in the company is.

At least you agree that these glasses are useful for harassers.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

@Heidentweet
A few months after I deleted my facebook account (must be over 12 years now) I received a job offer from Meta.

I didn't respond, so the recruiter wrote me the second time.

I didn't want to engage with that, because it was plain that what facebook was doing was bad for the society (and that was before Cambridge Analytica &c).

No one is obligated to work for Meta, and while I have no hard feelings against its employees, they are complicit with what Meta has been doing.

If they are putting harassment glasses on the market, it would be naive to expect no one will be harassed - so maybe experiences like this will make them rethink their careers and whatever they chose to devote their life to.

(Of course I still hope that the success of this equipment will be comparable to that of MetaVerse)

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

@Heidentweet @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom people who come in with backpacks through the front door at companies at these scales are generally not managers.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

They work for META, fully knowing what kind of company it is they work for, don't they? "Working for money" doesn't mean they are not complicit.

@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom and this gives you permission to harass them? What if they are not proud of their work and only do it for money as there is no other job on the market?

@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom 🤡 🤣 #mute

@grayrattus

They haven't been constantly harassed. They were made a little fun of, once, one morning, on their way to work. The guy had the decency to hide their face.

He hasn't been mean, it was light hearted humor.

I understand that we should understand that this is only a job, that this might be the only job available and so on. On the other hand, their job is making everybody else's life a little worse.

I understand that we should understand that this is only a job, that this might be the only job available and so on

@tyil @MichelPatrice "They could still live a very good life making a lot less money and having some moral values, if they actually cared." - if you have 3 kids, a mortgage 550 000 euros for 30 years and car in Amaterdam corporate jobs are the only options to cover expenses.

@tyil @grayrattus @MichelPatrice A mortgage of 550000 euro is not in Amsterdam. ;)

But every job is a choice. Being a soldier, a butcher is a choice. So why not working at Meta. Or, maybe, they just dont care.

Please read the books of Jan Eggers about the Circle. He is so on point.

But every job is a choice

Or, maybe, they just dont care.

@grayrattus

And there are other jobs. But they won't quit their job over this because it was only one dude making a little fun of them, once.

I'm sure they can suffer this.

@MichelPatrice and what is then the purpose of this "suffering"? Dont you feel like it will only make you feel better for a moment and they could loose their job due to this one unfunny prank?

It would really be better if this guy found out who is a top manager and ask him. Otherwise ita just bullying already bullied employes. And thats fucked up.

@grayrattus

The quotation marks on "suffering" are appropriated.

It is funny.

What ever top manager he will find will still be some unimportant employee.

But it is nice to think that some really big top managers somewhere have to see that their own employees are uncomfortable with these creep glasses and have to see their creep glasses made fun of.

@MichelPatrice I work enough in corporate to know that managers dont care about it at all. They are only there for profit and if a single employee said something bad about meta they would be fired immediatelly.

Please if you ever do similar stunt focus on managers and not on minions. Their life is already fucked up. Its easy to bully already bullied but it takes guts to for example record some higher management sniffing coke in one of Amsterdam clubs.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

What do you mean "harass them"

The guy simply uses the product that their employer markets to the public, within their employer's guidelines for it.

Do you somehow suggest that this is not perfectly all right?

@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I see you still try to turn this into some kind of a joke but Im not joking. This is harassement and its not funny.

He recorded vulnerable employees and I think its pathetic.

@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom volgende video naast Amazon warehouse:

V: waarom werk je voor Amazon? Ze support Israel!
A: weź kurwa uwal sie na frikandele, mam dzieci, które muszą jeść kiedy ty próbujesz zrobić ze mnie śmiecia dla wyświetleń na tiktoku

@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom volgende video naast Amazon warehouse:
V: waarom werk je voor Amazon? Ze support Israel!
A: fuck off lad, I have kids to feed while you try to make me look like a cunt for views on tiktok

@sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom volgende video naast Amazon warehouse:
V: waarom werk je voor Amazon? Ze support Israel!
A: Kanker op, kut. Als ik kinderen heb, hebben zij eten nodig, terwijl jij probeert mijn persoonlijkheid te gebruiken voor views op TikTok.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

Je reden om die vergelijking te maken is dat je aanneemt dat ik het net zo verkeerd vind als jij om Amazon-employees aan te spreken op het morele aspect van hun werk voor Amazon?

🤭

@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Are you realising the Problem? If this one Video is harassment, what are those PervGlasses as product for our society? AI based corporate mass surveillance for marketing, AI Training and collaboration with Law Enforcement.

@fckusa @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I understand the problem pretty well and I also understand that such actions dont make any impact other than they give you small spark of joy when you scroll the feed of your social network.

If you want to change something, protest in front of government buildings and meta headquarters. Dont haras employees. Focus on people who make decisions.

@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I agree on the protest with focus on the governments but even if every nation regulates this tech there won't be a coherent rulebook. We need to pressure every level of this industry accordingly to their role in this technology and employees working for Zuckerberg are a part of it. One of the minor parts but still. So I'm fine with this action. It's ok if you have your own view on that.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

You mean *in your opinion* it is harassment and not funny.

I think that, to the extent that it can be considered harassment, it is not undeserved, since those people work for META, and moreover I find the videoclip both enlightening and funny.

@sibrosan @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom What would you say you learned from watching this video?

@prism @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

That the intended use of the pervert glasses that META sells constitutes, in general, a gross violation of people's privacy, even if the company pretends it's just a harmless, fun product, and that even META's own employees are painfully aware of that, when confronted with someone using it in their presence.

#Meta #pervertglasses #privacy

@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I don't think these were the cleaning staff. Quite a difference between actual compensated developers and low wage Amazon workers which you're defending in a follow-up post.

If you want to instigate change, you need to poke at all different levels. Indeed not _just_ these minions, but _also_. When more people feel the hypocrisy in their work, they can bring about a shift for the better, if only ever so slightly.

@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Every person has the responsibility to take a step back and assess the nature of the organization in which they consider themselves merely an insignificant cog, no matter how much they "need" a job. Failing to do so and worse making fallacious excuses for them inevitably leads to the Banality of Evil. Their victims have a right to a life too.
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@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom This person made an attempt to open the eyes of the employees to this matter, by demonstrating the "joy" the flagship product of their company brings to innocent citizens.
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@grayrattus @sibrosan @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

”Won’t someone think of the fascism enablers?!”

@sibrosan @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Few years ago, when we still got the luxury to be able to choose which job we wanted to do, that may have been partly relevant.
But this days (thanks to the USA gov and a few bunch of billionaries), with the global economic situation making everything expensive, housing less affordable, etc, people are just happy to have a work and keep it.

@sibrosan @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom So, given this logic, is every USA resident a supporter of the current USA gov and its decisions, like the Iran war ?

@ck0 @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

You mean: given this faulty logic? I suppose so 🤔

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Ergens werken is niet neutraal. Het is een keus. Je wordt er meer of minder voor betaalt... en daar kun je zeker op worden aangesproken voor alles boven het niveau van vakkenvullen.

@fubaroque Precies. Het is geen moeilijke vraag. Als tiener besloot ik al niet voor onethische bedrijven te werken en dat heb ik nooit gedaan. Deze mensen kunnen dat ook doen. Anders zijn ze medeplichtig. Geld boven alles.
@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

@hembrow @fubaroque @grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
Diese Entscheidung, die Sie als Jugendlicher getroffen haben bedeutet für jeden etwas anderes und hat sehr unterschiedliche Konzequenzen. Grundsätzliche Teile ich diesen Gedanken, aber wem die Wahl tatsächlich fehlt (das Überleben, ist keine Wahl), dem fehlt zumindest in diesem Moment die Alternative. Allerdings muss man sich trotzdem jederzeit nach einer Alternative umsehen, wenn es nicht mit dem Gewissen vertretbar ist.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom yea, where you work (especially if you have the option to work at meta or booking) is a choice. Deciding to work at a place that supports genocide means actively supporting genocide.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Working at Meta is a choice. There are 1.5 million job vacancies in the Netherlands. Even selling drugs on a street corner is more socially beneficial than working at Meta.

@whvholst @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I wonder how many of them will allow you to pay bills in Amsterdam.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Even assuming that one could not live anywhere else on the planet but in Amsterdam (poor soul!), there are plenty of jobs in Amsterdam that do not involve taking a job at a corporation that has been complicit in multiple genocides like Meta is.

@grayrattus Good point. They're just doing their jobs. That's a great defense that's worked before. @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom this would typically not be people who have no choice where to work

@mkoek @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom sure, especially that a lot of people from the video did not even speak Dutch XD They probably have soooo many oportunities to work outside of corporate jobs.

@grayrattus @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom have you folks seen the average salaries for working at Meta? They could work anywhere better for a bit less. You HAVE to want to work at Meta in order to work at Meta.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom held! @StopdeGluurbril

@Roelmaalderink
Good action.
@bitsoffreedom

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom how many people will get worried when Meta glasses will collect PIN numbers of people getting cash or paying their bills at markets and shops. It's so easy to look over someone' s shoulder!

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Heel fijn Roel!

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Draag hem niet in mijn nabijheid. Uit privacy zelfverdediging sla ik hem van je snuit.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom 🤣 👍

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Apparently not when they are on the receiving end. 🤣

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Damn, it's almost as if capitalism forces people to work for corporates they hate themselves. But that sure makes it okay to harass random workers!

@yuri
Es geht hier nicht um den Kapitalismus, nicht um Arbeiter die schikaniert werden, weil sie für den "bösen Kapitalismus" arbeiten, sondern um die Herstellung von Grundrechtsverletzenden Waren (Waffen, gegen Freiheits- und Menschenrechte) die sich die Gesellschaftskritik auch bei den herstellenden Mitarbeitern durch solche "Anspielungen" gefallen lassen müssen. Ja, belästigend für Mitarbeiter diese Blosstellung des Produktes durch sie zu ertragen, schlimmere Konzequenz für die Gesellschaft!

@Realkind Tut mir Leid, ich verstehe nicht was du sagen möchtest weil der Satz zu verschachtelt ist.

Das Video ist halt einfach nicht dieser Gotcha-Moment den es verkaufen möchte. Und selbst wenn, gäbe es andere Möglichkeiten den Punkt zu machen, als von irgendeiner random Mitarbeiterin den Arsch zu filmen und auf Fedi zu posten.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Staat je wel goed.

Guns aren't the problem, people are.

@Roelmaalderink This is brilliant work, thank you! 👏

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom How's this black mirror experiment to make you uneasy by @Surf' s John Walker with students ...? 😇

https://communities.surf.nl/en/publieke-waarden/article/were-building-something-irresponsible-part-2

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
I like how they are being called "Pervert Glasses" in Australia

@MrLee @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom In The Netherlands they are called 'gluurbrillen', which basically translates as 'peeping glasses'

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom geniaal!

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

Meta employees coming to the realisation that "if they'll do it with you, they can do it to you."

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Messcherp punt gemaakt 💪😂🤗
Hoor net op de radio dat MZ de video van zijn platform heeft laten verwijderen, want “pesten” mag niet 🤪

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom 😂 en nu heeft Meta het verwijderd van insta… daarom Mastodon!

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I am not sure harassing the bottom line of a mega corporation with people who are just trying to make a living really surmounts to anything.

Its like going to the clothes spinners in Bangladesh for the things H&M or Primark are doing.

@dantalion The spinners in Bangladesh are much more removed than this. This is more like "Stop harassing the bottom line ICE agents who are just putting in a day's work enacting the administration's fascist ideals."

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

@xinit @Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom I think comparing meta workers to forces who threaten and bully people, exert phyisical violence, take people from their homes and deport them is a bit of hyperbole but sure.

Reality sits somewhere in between, that being said, try to find a job in tech that doesn't somehow contribute to technofascism. Its hard.

And no, there isn't enough space for everyone in tech to just start teaching or something like that.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

Is this like gun carrying theory? We know that guns exist and police are carrying them, like we know that police carry bodycams.
Can we allow other people to carry guns and body cams?
Or how to tell what happens with the recorded data?
Who should have access?
Who should be able to decide that?

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom Schot in de roos! Ik had dit filmpje nog niet bekeken. Maar toen ik er over las op Teletekst (dat het van Instagram werd gehaald) ben ik het even gaan terugkijken. Betere reclame krijg je niet. Zelf kom ik nooit op FB en Instagram, ik moet zoiets dus via Teletekst lezen.

Nadeel is dat dit teveel reacties op Mastodon oplevert. Die ga ik (tegen m'n principes in) echt niet allemaal lezen. Nog even en ik moet A.I. inzetten voor een slap en sterk ingekort gemiddelde.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom
Nou ja zeg: "Meta verwijderde de video van Instagram wegens vermeend pesten en intimidatie. Dat staat in een screenshot dat Bits of Freedom heeft gedeeld met het AD. De video staat nog wel op YouTube." https://www.nu.nl/tech/6410793/meta-verwijdert-satirische-video-roel-maalderink-over-ai-brillen-van-bedrijf.html

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom

Nu zelfs bij de NOS:

https://nos.nl/artikel/2632271-meta-haalt-satirische-video-roel-maalderink-over-camerabril-offline

@schellevis waarom maken jullie in dit bericht melding dat het filmpje "nog wel op Youtube te zien is" en niet bijvoorbeeld ook hier? Het zou echt helpen als mainstream media bigtech wat minder credits zou geven.

@Roelmaalderink @bitsoffreedom #Alt4You A man is using Meta glasses in the street right in front of Meta offices (probably in the Netherlands since the video is in Dutch). he tries to discuss with Meta employees but most of them flee away asking not to be filmed.