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Why have Christian crosses become a fashion statement?

Just saw a commercial, for ChatGPT Codex, with a young lady wearing a concealed cross.

I’m seeing crosses everywhere, even from people who have no idea what the Christian story actually is.

What gives?

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Replying to @⁨ki4jgt@feddit.org⁩

Remember swastikas? It’s like that. The abrahamic faiths have always been about violently forcing others to submit. Many modern believers are too stupid to realize this, they make excuses for the slavery and genocide throughout the bible and they pretend they themselves are not part of the problem. Others can be mask-off hateful and it’s rare for anybody to stop them.

Magical thinking is deadly. People aren’t using their brains and we’re all suffering for it.

Replying to @⁨ki4jgt@feddit.org⁩

I’ve wondered if Jesus was killed via guillotine, if people would be wearing little gold guillotines around their neck.

I’m not a Christian, but I think symbolically, his torture wasn’t the important part, but the rising from the dead thing. So why not have a solid circle 🔴(stone) offset from a circular ring ⭕️, referencing that whole “stone was rolled away from the tomb because resurrection” thing?

Replying to @⁨Jentu@lemmy.ml⁩

Its interesting you say that, because the resurrection is the important part. If not for that, Jesus would’ve just been another martyr. The cross (as opposed to a crucifix) actually symbolizes the same thing a stone rolled away from a tomb does. He’s not on the cross anymore, or in the tomb. I haven’t seen the stone and tomb idea on a necklace yet, but it would make a cool tattoo.

Replying to @⁨EffSee@lemmy.zip⁩

Jesus’ body being taken down from the cross by people isn’t proof of resurrection though. There’s a lot of places jesus isn’t anymore, but the tomb is the one place he was supposed to remain. I assume every body that is crucified is taken down eventually (though I may be wrong about this- I’m not sure how weary people were about the public safety risks of a rotting body near society back then). I think the cross and crucifix are used symbolically over the tomb because Christians, to see themselves in Jesus, must pair themselves to the idea that they will be tortured for their beliefs.

Christians had a ton of symbolism to choose from (rainbow, fish, tomb, donkey, feet etc.) and they chose the one that will definitely give Jesus PTSD if he has a second coming.

Replying to @⁨davel@lemmy.ml⁩

You’re right. The sacrifice and martyrdom is a huge part of being a Christian (which is likely why the cross is used). I’m not sure how I had forgotten that a huge theme among Christians is self sacrifice and Jesus dying for our sins.

But what makes Jesus special, at least from my perspective, wasn’t that he was martyred since others in the Bible were as well. It was the claim he was the son of god offering to save us from damnation, which is validated by the resurrection. Idk I think I just find the cross kind of macabre as a symbol of religion (and as a tool of punishment in general of course). Back when I was a Christian decades ago, I was also anti-cross lol

Replying to @⁨ki4jgt@feddit.org⁩

Bill Hicks had a great bit on this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJSZcxXe7IQ

I’m convinced it’s most often performative, consciously or otherwise, and a signal to make your ‘beliefs’ overt. Many seek to benefit from the perception of being associated with Christian beliefs, likely more than people who are truly living the prescriptions of their religious doctrine. I say this because Fox news hosts all have them and I can guarantee you none of those freaks are meaningfully sacrificing anything for those in need or performing works of good. I’m not advocating for this by the way, it’s a disservice to true believers to set a false pretense, and I’m one who believes actions speak louder than words. As far as I’m concerned wearing symbols and trinkets falls closer to the ‘words’ category of acts.

YouTubeBill Hicks - Crossesby Bill Hicks