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Replying to @SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone
I don’t see how you were “dunked on”. There was one (1) person who went farther than voicing legitimate concerns… and then you were a twat and a half about it in the edited post. “Politely go fuck yourself” with a smile is worth a downvote.
Developers have been getting criticism for using particular tools for decades. For using Electron, for using systemd, for developing in Rust, for not developing in Rust, for using GTK or Qt… but when LLMs get involved, it’s suddenly verboten and you get to take some reductive moral high ground because “it’s just a tool”?
(edit) Just to answer the actual question:
- If you don’t need to use AI, don’t. Messy, undocumented, human-authored code deserves more respect than clean code with dubious authorship.
- Show how the sausage is made. Don’t just push your project as a single squashed commit; it makes you look like you have something to hide. (edit 2) If a commit contains AI-generated anything, mark it as such.
- Again, don’t be a twat when you inevitably get pushback. As a developer
of supposedly 25 years, you should be familiar with thatof no particular renown, you should learn how to handle it gracefully before a reputation develops around you.
Replying to @rtxn@lemmy.world
Ok, fair enough about “dunked on”. The exact nuance of Americanisms occasionally escapes me, in the same way “rooting for the home team” means something very different once you cross the equator. I’ll concede that, and stop trying to translate into lingo that isn’t mine.
On sequencing of events: I posted about my project as a genuine “hey, look at this cool thing I did”, with no intention to share the codebase until others asked for it. Literally no intention, grabbing for likes or stars on Github.
Someone responded by calling me “fluent in slop” - directed at a person who is, for what it’s worth, autistic. I wrote the original post and then rewrote the AI disclosure with some cheek baked back in. So, the twattery had a catalyst.
Which, I’ll note, is a word you’ve used twice in one comment while advising me not to be one :)
Finally: you’re conflating me with the author of Cliparr. I’ve never claimed 25 years of development (and if anything, I prefer not to talk about professional roles on social media). He’s the gent being called a slop merchant preemptively in the other thread, who inspired this one.
I think you’re trying to gaslight us and yourself into believing that this post has standing and that you didn’t fuck up.
Stop with the stilted arguments and actually listen to what people are telling you (after you asked for it) in a much nicer tone than I am using right now.
Replying to @A_norny_mousse@piefed.social
Fucked up…what, exactly? Calling out someone for harassing the cliparr dev or someone else for saying a person with ASD 1) sounds like a machine and 2) that their hobby project could kill someone if used?
Or the gent above telling me off for (in their words) being a twat by calling me a twat multiple times?
None of these are gaslighting…they’re literally a click away. Look.
I have no interest in making this about personalities. It’s about this -
- Don’t disclose - slop
- Disclose with AIP - not specific enough, still assume slop
- Disclose more specifically - still slop
There’s literally no disclosure the Cliparr dev (or others) could have made that that would have been accepted in good faith once tagged with [AIP]. I see that sort of attitude a lot on Lemmy. It’s irrational…because AI tools touch roughly 99.99% of code now.
Replying to @SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone
From one autistic person to another, I’m going to make it extremely clear. The primary issue here is not that you used AI to write part of your project (although it is a legitimate source of concern for some). The issue, where you fucked up, is your response. You were unnecessarily rude, offensive, and confrontational in your initial reaction, and continued acting like that once people pointed it out after you asked.
Also, as a person with ASD myself: how dare you use your condition as an excuse for your behaviour. It’s fucking shameful, and that’s the most polite I’m willing to be about it.
Replying to @rtxn@lemmy.world
You desperately want to make this personal? Fine.
How dare I? How dare you.
Where was I “rude?” Cite it or retract it.
Four times from you, unprompted:
[1] “you were a twat and the half”
[2] “don’t be a twat when you inevitably get pushback”
[3] “that’s just being a dick”
[4] “how dare you use your condition… It’s fucking shameful”
That’s your conduct. Here’s the catalyst - other commenters calling my project “slop machine” output and suggesting people could die from using it:
[1] “some slopper decided to remove all its data just after you leave cell coverage”
[2] “This just looks like Comaps ran through the slop machine”
[3] “Probably because OP is fluent in slop. Their job was done the moment the prompt was finished”
and on the Cliparr thread, someone likewise accusing that dev of similar, over having agents.md in their repo -
I pushed back against those accusations first. Should I just smile politely?
You waded in later with name-calling.
You understand “twat” isn’t a throwaway word, right? And you think pushing back against “slop merchant” accusations constitutes “rudeness” warranting four separate insults?
Prove where I crossed the line. Otherwise stop calling me names and claiming moral high ground.