Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

Lets say you have a 300mi range EV. that sounds great, until you realize you can’t actually use it all.

We like to save the bottom 20% for emergencies and battery longevity, and fast charging is too slow above 80% to be worth it, so effectively, on a road trip. only the 20%-80% range is usable. Your 300mi+ range just turned into 180mi of usable range. And then factor in ~10% battery degradation over time, or range reduction in winter conditions, and you could easily have as little as 150mi of actual usable range between charging stops. And that’s assuming the charging stations are perfectly spaced apart.

That’s only a little more than 2 hours at highway speeds. And that’s not along time to be driving, even for a single person. In gas cars, we will regularly do 3-4 hours without stopping at all. And if we do stop for a break, it’s rarely at gas stations or places with charging stations. Those are typically awful places to spend the limited amount of time you have on a trip.

In practice, the charging interval is far, far less than the ideal 300mi and far more frequent.

Replying to @⁨Nindelofocho@lemmy.world⁩

You don’t need it 99% of the time, but in that 1% when you need it, you really need it. 99% simply isn’t enough because that 1% is really important.

Time on a road trip is way more important than time in regular drives. I don’t mind being 30min late getting back home from work, that happens all the time from traffic, but 30min late on a roadtrip means you’re missing daylight, or an appointment, or that restaurant you really wanted to try is closed. These are not imaginary hypotheticals, all of these situations have regularly happened to me even with gas cars.

Replying to @⁨hcbxzz@lemmy.world⁩

This is fascinating to read because it’s completely the opposite of how I think.

If I was regularly 30 min late coming home from work I would scream. Nobody has time for that!

30 min late on vacation? Who cares? You can’t even plan any trip with that tight of tolerances, anyway. Too many factors beyond your control could delay you by more than 30 minutes, easily. As you say, this type of thing can happen even with gas cars, or trains, planes, boats, bicycles, etc.

Replying to @⁨kestrel7_7@lemmy.world⁩

Americans don’t get much vacation time. Which makes what limited vacation time we do get much more precious. Losing 30min out of 365 days is a bummer, but losing 30min out of a 7 day vacation is worse. If you have the choice of spending an extra 30min at Walmart vs spending that 30min at the beach or sleeping in at the Hotel, which would you pick? That is exactly the trade off you make when choosing between a gas car and an EV on a road trip.

As you say, this type of thing can happen even with gas cars, or trains, planes, boats, bicycles, etc.

Yes, but it’s worse with EVs. Why would I willingly make my experience worse on a vacation?

Edited ⁨⁨Oct⁩ ⁨5⁩, ⁨2026⁩, ⁨23:23⁩⁩en

Replying to @⁨hcbxzz@lemmy.world⁩

If that’s really how you feel, I implore you to slow down and enjoy the trip as much as the destination. Who cares about an extra thirty minutes if you’re basically enjoying all of them. And you’re wasting much more of your vacation than thirty minutes if you hate the whole time you’re travelling. Perhaps you have a perspective issue, more than a propellant issue.