Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I used to upgrade every 2 years until I got an iPhone 15 Pro. I was going to ride or die with my 13 mini but I really wanted to get all my devices on usb-c. I splurged on my current phone with the intention to keep it for a long time. Going on 3 years now.

I used to go hard on the androids with rooting and customizing. I’ve since resigned myself to wanting a phone that “just works.”

Replying to @⁨disregardable@lemmy.zip⁩

This depends a lot on the person. There’s plenty of rich people that earned it rather than being born into it, and still live frugally. I work at a big tech company and there’s plenty of people with mid to high six figure salaries that still use coupons, keep their phone for 4-5 years, and save as much money as they can. Living well within your means on a higher salary lets you retire early, and for some people that’s worth more than any frivolous spending.

Replying to @⁨dan@upvote.au⁩

Apple does too.

If I wanted to get a new phone this year, I could trade my 17 pro max in and their current trade is $885, and I think it was $1400 msrp when I bought it. So I’d have actually paid $515 or something like that.

I also traded in my 15 pro max when I got the 17 and they gave me $520 on it after 2 years. And I think I actually got that one free on our phone plan when we switched. So really I got a free 15, which they then gave me $515 for, taking the 17 down to $879, which is less than what they’d give me today for it.

Replying to @⁨ChristchurchAsshole@lemmy.ml⁩

Depends on the repair. Never used to be possible to even get an aftermarket screen, although you can now. I have walked in with a broken screen on a current model phone to be told it can’t be fixed and they would use it as a trade in.

Fortunately, you can now get genuine parts from third parties.

A third party repair of a screen is about $175. Apple is over $250. Last time I had it quoted was a couple of years ago though, so YMMV.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I stopped buying new phones when I started running GrapheneOS on my phone. I bought a used pixel 8 thinking it would be supported by Google for 8 years. Needless to say I greatly underestimated Google doing evil things and not being absolute obstinate weasels on abiding by the GPL. Currently looking for options on running a cheap Linux phone to weigh what to swap to in the future.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I currently have a refurbished Pixel 8 (chosen because it’s the oldest phone recommended by GrapheneOS). I got it less than a year ago when my previous phone (a refurbished Pixel 7) started having screen problems. I got that one a few years before, when my refurbished Pixel 6 fell out of my pocket in a parking lot and got driven over by a car.

If it weren’t for breakages and Graphene system requirements (for security features, not performance), I’d probably still be using the Pixel 6, if not some phone I had even before that. It’s been at least half a decade or so since the last time I felt like upgrading because my phone wasn’t good enough.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

When the old one is no longer suitable for use as a primary phone:

  • Nexus 5 - broke the screen. Actually still mostly works to this day, and I have Android 9 on it.
  • Sony X Compact - small onboard storage, Android’s crappy SD card support, and a lack of quality third-party ROMs after official support ended shortened this one’s service life.
  • Pixel 4a - current phone, don’t want to “upgrade” to something that’s bigger and doesn’t have a headphone jack, mildly annoyed the fingerprint sensor broke.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Just smashed my iphone 11 in a derailer, which is a railroad related accident.

I had bought it used about 8 years ago, the iPhone 11, and took the opportunity to spend 500$ on a pixel 10a and put graphene OS on it.

Funny story: I set up the duress password, and afterwards, was setting up new users. Well one of the new users I setup us3d the same pin as as the duress password! D’Oh! Anyways… The duress pin works! Had to go to cricket to implement a new esim! Lol.

Love the phone tho!

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

When I developed for Android: every two or three years or so: HTC Magic Nexus One (one year later, but was gifted it by Google) Nexus 4 Nexus 6 pro

At that point I changed jobs and had to pay for my own phone. Also, became a parent. Samsung Galaxy s8 - cracked the screen after half a year in a child-related incident. Kept going for a while. Samsung galaxy s10 - cracked the screen quite fast in a sleep deprivation related incident. Google Pixel Pro 7 (At this point I started wrapping my phone in mous. Samsung Galaxy S26 ultra (I won this in a competition, but didn’t need to replace my old phone)

So… I never felt like I needed to chase new features after I stopped working with android development, and really, the wild development rush pretty much stopped, but I kept changing phones because I kept breaking them all of a sudden.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I bought a new phone every year, until i bought the Oneplus 5, in 2017. Until then, every new Phone had a “wow”-effect, big differeces in speed, camera, … Right around that time, phones have gotten so good, that i stopped buying new ones, there is no need anymore. You buy a new phone and the camera is 5% better, you wont see that. I now buy new, when the Phone doesnt get Updates. Currently on Fairphone 4, running Lineage OS. Next Phone will probably be a Fairphone again.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Normally I keep a phone until severe hardware failure (spicy pillow, broken digitizer, not charging…)

The only thing that has gotten me to upgrade was the Boox Palma 2 Pro for it’s e-ink display specifically, due to eyestrain from reading on LCD, and my Galaxy A23 5G i received as a gift having its display start falling out (and fear of future storage/ram prices)

(technically almost a phone due SIMs only being supported for mobile data, but i use a flip phone for SIM-based calls/sms anyway)

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I think if I had the money to burn, as much as there’s distaste for the practice, I probably WOULD replace my phone frequently, or maybe at least as often as it takes my fancy or I hear about one that sounds cool. It’s nice having cool new shit. But, I’ve never had that kind of money to burn and the reality is there’s something weirdly idiosyncratic and personal to what makes a ‘good’ phone nowadays when there’s so little to separate them and they’re all pretty much amazing magical sci-fi devices so it’s always going to be 4 years minimum. Typically what ends up killing the marriage is that I’ve accidentally managed to smash the poor thing somehow, that’s even when I’ve actually ended up hating the thing. I’m just never going to waste the thing I paid for even when it turned out to be a bad buy.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

My smartphone progression was as follows

  • Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini (Don’t remember when I got this one. I wish companies still made phones this small…)
  • Huawei P9 Lite (Bought in 2016 I think)
  • Xiaomi Mi 9T (Bought in 2019)
  • Google Pixel 7 (Bought in 2023)

So far, none of my phones had to be replaced due to hardware failure or damage luckily. The S3 Mini simply got too old. When I upgraded, it could not even play a Youtube video in the app without lagging due to severe RAM limitations. I remember having a screenshot of the RAM usage that said I had less than a MiB of RAM remaining at some point.

My P9 lite was fine. At some point my grandmother decided she wanted a smartphone though and instead of buying a new one for herself she told me to upgrade and give her the old one. When that one got to slow for her, the cycle repeated with me giving her my Xiaomi Mi 9T and upgrading to the Pixel 7 which I use to this day.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

i swear the apple v android articles are fodder pumped out by media companies because it’s easy ad money.

don’t get me wrong, conspicuous consumption has ruined some people’s ability to own their identity but outside of brand fanaticism surely “normal” customers purchase phones based on when they need it. When do you buy bread? Typically when you want to eat something which has bread.

perhaps not the point of the original question but surely we’re getting beyond the point of being baited by low-quality online content.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I will use it until it stops being viable. This used to mean “until the battery dies”, but I’ve also swapped batteries in phones not designed for it, and still had to get a new one as the batteries available weren’t OEM and so bad they basically didn’t work despite being new. Like phone always just turns off at like 40% charge. That isn’t “viable” in my eyes.

Now I’ve got a Fairphone 5. It’s only been a few years, but I’m planning on 10+ years if I can make it happen. In theory some new feature could get me to buy one sooner, but I highly doubt it. Hasn’t happened in the past either.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Used to buy one every two years or so, either to upgrade or they had failed in some way. Used to spend $1000+ on them too, which is ridiculous looking back with how often they broke.

Had a $2000 phone stop charging and they refused to service it without a huge fee and shipping it oversees. (Asus for anyone wondering. I’ve fully gone off the brand since then. Very overpriced with terrible customer service.)

I was waiting for a call back after a job interview so I went and bought whatever cheap phone I could get and ended up with an oppo. That was in 2019 and it’s still going perfectly fine. Phones haven’t innovated at all since then and with how much they cost I kind of just don’t care to upgrade.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

5 years the last one.

The hardware, including battery, worked great. But it has been lacking updates for some years and I’m worried about vulnerabilities. LineageOS was also not available for this phone.

I bought a phone with 7 years updates and my initial intention is keeping it for 7 years. More if an stable and secure version of LineageOS is available down the line.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Every other day! I just can’t help myself! A new model is released and the hype machine starts up; updates are released to downgrade performance on older models–I just wag my tail non-stop! It’s so exciting! Those flashy lights and colours! Ooooo! This money belongs in their wallets and everyone’s going to get a hold them! And I tell myself pathetic lies: oh, the battery can’t be replaced… if only it had screws… it’s way too hard to heart up glue and put a new battery in. Besides–all my friends are going into debt too! Plus those new features: it can make phone calls and text! Look! E-mail access too!

Replying to @⁨PetteriPano@lemmy.world⁩

I came here ready to say “between 2 and 3 years on average” but after seeing your message I decided to count how many phones I’ve had and I’m disappointed to see I got to 21 phones in 23 years.

3 phones were stolen; 2 were complete trash that I regretted buying; 1 got destroyed within 2 months of purchase. 1 was a dumb phone I needed as an extra at one point. 1 was a free upgrade I got for work.

For a while I was just too cheap with the phones I was buying. Other than the Nokia Lumias, those cheap phones always had some kind of issue that would drive me insane after a while. They also didn’t really work well for very long so I “had to” change more often. Once I started paying more for phones (like $200) I started keeping them longer too. I only recently replaced my 2021 phone.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I buy a new one when my current one is having so many problems it’s hard to ignore. I didn’t get a smartphone till 2020. Before then it was cheap pay-as-you-go phones. That phone was a moto g power and I had it till last year when it was getting to be too slow and the screen shattered when dropping it on my way out of work. I got a pixel 10 since my phone plan gave a massive discount on it.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Until it is entirely unusable. My last phone I had for years after it stopped being supported, it would hardly charge, the screen was totally shattered, and I was still using it up until it bricked itself. I’ll probably see if I can convert my current GOS phone into a Linux phone after GOS stops supporting it, for security reasons to use a supported OS, but I want to minimise my contribution to e-waste.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I recieved my first phone in 2003 and as far as I can remember, I have owned 8 phones from 2003 to 2026.

I owned 4 phones from the ages of 14 to 19 From 20 to 30 I owned 3 phones. In my 30s I have so far only owned 1 phone. On average that means I have replaced my phones every 2.8 years.

Three of my phones were used phones I either bought from friends or got for cheap at phone stores because they had been display models.

My first phone was a nokia 3510i and I replaced it with a Sony Ericsson phone around 2005 because I wanted a camera phone and it was no longer cool to own one of the old school Nokia phones.

My next one was a bronze colored Sony Ericsson dumbphone and I think I got it in 2007. It fell into a river. We managed to save it, but it was never the same. I forget if I got it new or if this was a display model.

The one I got after that one was a purple phone, similarish to the bronze one. We are still in dumbphone land and I’m pretty sure it was 2008. I think it was one of my friends’ old phones and I bought it from her because she felt sorry for me that my “river phone” was acting up.

The one after this one was in 2011 when I got my first smartphone. Xperia Ray, I think it was called. It lasted me 4 years and then fell out of my pocket when I ran across the road and it died a horrific death on asphalt.

I got myself a used dumbphone in order to stay in contact with people, but it genuinely sucked. It had been a display model at a store and it was dirt cheap and barely worked. This phone only lasted me some months before my temper could no longer handle it being so shit at everything. I don’t even remember, what it looked like.

I finally bit the bullet and splurged on a smartphone. My first Andriod. I think it was called something-something “Edge”. Broke easily. Couldn’t handle shit. Definitely the weakest phone I ever had, productionwise. Somehow, it lasted me 7 years. Maybe out of stubbornness because I fucking hate spending money and if something has cost me more than a thousand in my country’s currency, it better survive, bitch. One day, it simply just went black after two years of barely working.

The one I have now is also an Andriod. Got in 2022 and it was apparently a dated model when I bought it, but to me it was insanely futuristic compared to my other phones. The best thing about it is that I have dropped this bitch on nearly every type of hard surface you can think of, and it’s barely got a scratch. I don’t buy phone cases for my phones because I hate phone cases. I think this might be the best phone I have had since my Nokia 3510i. This thing takes every hit life gives it and it doesn’t even flinch. The battery is still pretty good as well. I hope it will last me until 2032 at the earliest.

Every phone I buy for the rest of my life will only be replaced when I have no choice. I hate spending money and I increasingly hate modern phones.

My next phone will more than likely be a Fairphone.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

About 5 years. I don’t care much about the canera. I went from a note 20 Ultra to getting a red magic 11 pro late last year. It has pretty bad cameras but everything else is awesome and the battery will probably be what will eventually make me upgrade again. Just seeing how long it will last and how hard a time it will be to get a hold of a replacement battery. I know how to repair and work on phones and electronics, so doing repairs and getting to the battery isn’t much of a challenge for myself, but getting batteries that aren’t utter trash is a lot harder.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Currently every 3 years for me. Normally it’s once the new models have enough added hardware features like better cameras, better microphones for video recording etc

It hasn’t been because my phone has been slow for many years because they’re at the point of being powerful even considering years of age.

I’ve only met one person who upgrades each year simply because a new phone is released yet myself and many others have iPhones.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

When it dies or becomes obsolete (~5 years)

I think it’s a tech fanboys rather than Apple fanboys that change it every year : one can observe the same modus operandi for Samsung.

Most Apple users will keep their device for a while, just as most android users. Those that change tend to value peer recognition above eveything else and having the latest gadget is a way to achieve that goal.

Replying to @⁨Ashiette@lemmy.world⁩

It keeps surprising me that in the US you are so limited in choice. Most people in this thread only refer to Apple or Samsung because that is the choice they have. I’m in China currently and Apple is not even in the top 5 and Samsung has no presence here at all in the phone market.

But I agree with you. The tech fanboys are the same. Whenever Xiaomi for example, releases a new model, it sells out in one day.

Like the iPhone fold, will barely make a dent here because all other local brands have folds that are much better and are already in their 5th iterations. The Xiaomi 18 fold sold 36. 000 units in its first day.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Had my last smartphone, Honor 20, for 6 years, it didn’t get any safety updates for the last 3… Bought a refurbished iPhone 2 years ago, I will either use that until the safety updates stop or until I ragequit myself out of the modern society. Whichever happens sooner, following the ID laws and all.

But my main phone is a dumb Nokia I found from the trash. I don’t see it breaking and they do sell aftermarket batteries still, so no issues. Can call mom and so on.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I used to change every 2 years. First, it was included in my mobile plan and each was really better than the previous one. Then, I took a plan without mobile. I bought one, I lost it after two years. I bought a really old second-hand one, it broke after two years and it was not updated anymore, so I changed. I bought a very old one that was not updated after two years. It was frustrating, so I bought a new one four years ago. I plan to keep it as long as possible now they are updated longer.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

I spent a little more to get the upgraded newest model of the android phone I’m currently typing this on, released in January 2021 and received by me in March. I had to replace my previous phone because the battery started to fail and it was failing behind in Android versions, meaning some newer apps could no longer be installed and some older apps could no longer be updated. Current phone still going strong, no signs of being any slower than it was originally. Mostly have used wireless charging and battery protection schemes in the OS, so USB port still works well and charges just fine either way. I feel like phones hit a performance plateau a few years ago and I see no reason for an “upgrade”. If my current phone needs to be replaced, I fully expect to be forced to pay more for less given the costs of memory these days. Previously I’d been basically forced to upgrade every 2 years because I always bought the contract special “free” phone and updates stopped or the battery pillowed.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

Every 4 to 6 years; using Iphone.

Usually wait for some reason to change, which is almost always unrelated to features on new phones. Either the phone breaks, gets lost or there is something specific I want which my phone doesn’t have. Plan to get a new one this year to get a bigger screen, otherwise would have kept the existing one which works perfectly fine, does everything I need and is going on 6 years without any issues.

Replying to @⁨stumu415@lemmy.zip⁩

iPhone 4 (used) -> Xiaomi Mi4c (new) -> Xiaomi Mi9SE (new) -> Google Pixel 5 (used) -> Fairphone 5 (new)

I think thats my list. Got the iPhone in 2012 or 13 from a friend. Im planning to keep the Fairphone at least until 2033 (thats how long they guarantee security updates right now) so thats around 4 yrs/phone in total, more like 3yrs until now. I used every one of those pretty much until their last breath, I even opened up two of them to replace the battery.