GrapheneOS defends use of AI for coding

GrapheneOS is currently defending its use of AI coding tools on Mastodon against complaints by various accounts claiming to be users.

We do not understand where you’re coming from or why you’re so incredibly angry with us. It’s not justified and does not make sense.

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I guess many people don’t know how much programming has changed over the last year. GrapheneOS is doing a good job telling it like it is.

Your take here is so dumb. Many on Lemmy are software engineers (myself included).

We know exactly how “AI” companies have tried to change programming and know how dumb and misguided it is because we understand quality code.

Sure bro. All dumb takes by GrapheneOS, LineageOS, and even Linux.

You understand quality code, unlike Linus Torvalds.

GrapheneOS and Linus have always had a god complex and took the stance their way is the only way. I have never respected them as the arbiters of the correct path others have. (I know LineageOS exists but not much else so can’t speak to them).

I respect them putting in the effort. I respect them trying. I’ve contributed where I can because the overall goal of data privacy and digital freedom is one I agree with. But to hold them on a pedestal as always right is, yes, still a dumb take. I’ve never seen anything that made them the end all be all people seem to hold them up as. Solid voices who’s opinion should hold more than average? Sure. But that’s it.

Yes, Linus is smart and has had good takes and can produce code used by most every computer in one way or another. That doesn’t make him infallible.

Its not about putting linus on a pedestal… its about these anti-AI purists declaring everyone who uses AI a nazi and all code is slop. Big tough guys saying they wont use software with even a single line of generated code.

Go ahead, fork the linux kernel then… these people will never be able to follow through with their purism, unless they go full templeOS mode

I dislike AI overall, but what i’m starting to dislike almost as much are these anti-AI purists who are holier than everyone

I mean this in the worst way possible. Your attitude mirrors the far right and is just as bad a take. That’s their approach to everything.

“Oh, you’re fighting against something you see as a danger to literally the entire world? Well if you’d just stop shoving your opinion in our face we’d be happier.”

He doesn’t care for misguided opinions not backed with anything but emotion. The people he is talking about don’t actually look into the issues and fight those, their mind is set that AI is evil and you are too for any usage of it, without actually understanding anything about the situation.

There are situations where using AI uses less power than traditional methods, there are situations where the power is clean, hell there are even models getting made that don’t use stolen data. Some people use it more responsibly (use tiny models where possible) while some toss everything at whatever new Fable or Opus is available.

There are levels of AI usage and their blanket statements with no understanding are annoying because it alienates the people that are responsible with their usage.

I am sorry you get tossed out with the bathwater.

It absolutely is something I struggle with. To me, I know LLMs are just called AI but aren’t, and machine learning is not LLM. I’ve actually developed a neural network based program for a previous company before and know it can be useful in certain cases.

But how do I know the person I’m talking to knows that? How do I know the person is one of the minority who is trying to do it ethically and responsibly? How do I express just how truly damaging the current mainstream “AI” methods are succinctly and strongly without getting bogged down in that discussion and sidetracked from the bigger picture (which is exactly what’s happening here in this comment for example).