Apparently not solved. They can connect to open (and hidden) networks without your consent.

Per the marketing chief at LG; (paraphrased, from memory) “we own the glass, and we know everything beyond the glass.”

They can connect to open (and hidden) networks without your consent.

That’s a wild claim and either I accidentally skipped a paragraph in the article or you should cite a source. Quick googling doesn’t show up anything of that sort for me.

I’m looking for a source as well. The “apparently” I used was supposed to cover the whole comment, but I can see how it didn’t.

The video goes into detail, and could be staged, but comments seem to support the idea anyway.

Amazon devices are known to do this with other Amazon products to create a mesh.

It’s not outside the realm of possibility.

Look for articles about amazons sidewalk network and devices that connect to it without any kind of authorization from users.

That shit has been around since the echo came out and it’s open to any manufacturer.

There’s are lots of articles but my phone is too slow to load them at the moment.

I looked for but didn’t find any about LG TVs, the actual topic here and what the wild claim was made about.

I’m not sure if LG connects to it, but it’s an open standard and like LoRa, has a decent range, so there doesn’t seem to be anything stopping them from adding it to their TVs.

Plus from the article:

It also picks up the SSIDs and signal strengths of neighboring Wi-Fi networks visible to its wireless radio, building a rough map of the surrounding area, and includes location data tied to those network identifiers in what it collects.

This is active scanning, not passive listening: the television initiates the queries, processes the responses, and packages the results into structured data. The researchers confirmed the behavior happens out of the box, with no extra configuration needed, and found no setting that disables the LAN sweep on its own, separate from other smart features.

It doesn’t mention connecting automatically to unsecured networks, but it sounds like one OTA update away from that capability (The sidewalk network works this way, which is why I mentioned it). LG is already lying about the transcriptions taking place, so there’s no reason to trust them, which I think the point of this thread was.

I don’t have any specific evidence on hand, but I do know a lot about the technology and companies involved from working in adjacent fields (cloud architecture) and it is absolutely plausible that they can and do. If they are not doing it already (and I believe it is highly doubtful that at least some devices do not already do this) then it is certainly on their roadmap. Many consumer IoT/media devices have invisible, hidden wireless networks built in and have for years. If it’s advertised, it may boast some sort of “quick connect”, “auto configuration” or other convenience feature, it may be genuinely required for low-latency/quality-of-service (for example on most modern TV services which supply the channels by IPTV behind the scenes), but it’s always on, it’s always listening, and it’s only a friendly partnership agreement away from being used for whatever “legitimate” purposes a company may dream of.

Tech surveillance is extremely out of hand and has gone so far beyond anything would consider reasonable, I understand that you would instinctively reject it as too extreme to be believable. But in the industry it’s completely normalized and they don’t even give it a second thought, it’s just business as usual.

It’s in the 2h long Gamersnexus video. The TVs aren’t connecting to open WiFi networks but connecting to other LG TVs within range. That forms some sort of mesh network that lets the TV access the internet. Apparently it’s not illegal wardriving because “they own the glass”.