Replying to an earlier post

He’s just admitting the usage of LLMs. They can be powerful tools in the right hands, and he wouldn’t submit that code if he couldn’t take responsibility for it. The bullshit OpenAI ,Anthropic et al are pulling is not synonymous with the technology itself, which will survive those asshats.

I’m pretty sure there were people like you thinking about IDEs the same way.

Or using something else than vim for editing files.

Or replacing punch cards.

Replying to an earlier post

Reported for the personal insult btw, this is not needed in any way or form.

Yes, they are disclosing it, and that’s a good thing for you! If you want to avoid products that use LLMs in their code, being informed is key. Increasing pressure on coders who are also under pressure to provide a service - especially if it is fucking unpaid like most FOSS projects - will only mean that they don’t disclose it anymore, because if they can increase their output (for instance by running unit tests or scan for issues) in the limited time they can provide, they will take that edge, people like you be damned. It’s only human.

Your way will only lead into a future where most coders use LLMs, and you are in the dark about it, leaving you without the option to choose.

Replying to @⁨Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de⁩

Provenance has never been something you can guarantee with code in an open contribution model (which is not the only way of governing an open source project). For all you know the code could be copy and pasted from a proprietary codebase, or be the product of third party who’s work is being plagiarised by the submitter. A software project is ultimately a community and is build on trust and faith that people are acting in good faith. The kind of person who would deliberately (and gleefully as I’ve seen in some social media posts) go into a community and violate its stated values and standards, no matter how arbitrary and illegitimate they feel those are, has bigger character flaws to worry about than their reliance on stochastic parrots to write code.

‘No AI’ rules are ultimately about fostering certain community values and norms than guaranteeing no LLM code makes it in.