sunbeam60@sunbeam60@feddit.uk
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Replying to @⁨Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org⁩

I’m just a movement generator.

Saying “it’s a text generator” cannot be the full force of your criticism, if the text it generates is incredibly useful. What could AI be on a screen if not a text generator?

Your views have got to be formed by WHAT text is generated given that AI cannot express itself through any other channel than text.

If you can give AI a deeply complex code base and ask it to find the likely cause of an obscure bug, and the solution is right, then you’ll have to acknowledge that some form of reasoning is going on, no?

And given that no other system has previously enabled this form of reasoning, it seems a shame to judge AI on semantics, rather than usefulness.

Muehe@Muehe@lemmy.ml

Replying to @⁨sunbeam60@feddit.uk⁩

I’m just a movement generator.

Which is way more complex than just predicting text, because you have to predict physics and all that stuff. There is a reason most robots controlled by neural nets have failed hilariously so far.

then you’ll have to acknowledge that some form of reasoning is going on, no?

By that logic you could say a compiler is reasoning. But the reasoning displayed was happening when the compiler (or LLM training material respectively) was written.

sunbeam60@sunbeam60@feddit.uk

Replying to @⁨Muehe@lemmy.ml⁩

If you can’t see the difference between a compiler and a large language model, may I propose you read more about both and then return to this debate.

And if the entirety of your argument is a mystic “and all that stuff”, I am finding it hard to generate a convincing counter-argument.

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Muehe@Muehe@lemmy.ml
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Replying to @⁨sunbeam60@feddit.uk⁩

If you can’t see the difference between a compiler and a large language model

If you can’t see the difference between a given example and the underlying logic…

And if the entirety of your argument is a mystic “and all that stuff”

What, you want me to list the entirety of sciences downstream from physics that are involved in generating and predicting movement in mammals? Because that could, like, take a while…