the fact that this shit now has an entire foundation, conference, corporate sponsorships, and merch proves that the tech industry is just a never-ending series of grifts in a trench coat

@davidcelis how many steps you reckon until there's a direct connection to peter theil? i reckon two

@SnoopJ @davidcelis @glyph brb renaming all my wifi SSIDs "give Rob monies"

@davidcelis how in the heck? basically nobody gives alpine money and it is the backbone of the modern internet, but some vanity distro gets $12m?

do you have any idea what foundational distros like alpine could do with $12m? it would be game changing.

@ariadne
It's because fascists give money to fascists. Also I did not know that alpine is the backbone of the modern internet, but it completely makes sense. I've had only good experiences with it
@davidcelis

@sackofbones @ariadne @davidcelis Alpine is the gold standard of Docker base images

@ariadne @davidcelis
But giving money to Alpine doesn't promote a political agenda. All it does is help lots of people you don't know personally. Obvious waste of money.

@davidcelis @jannem is that not the marketed purpose of philanthropy though?

@ariadne @davidcelis
Philanthropy is not what is happening here

@jannem @ariadne @davidcelis that, plus marketing is always a lie.

@jannem @ariadne @davidcelis does it not promote a political agenda? i'd say it certainly does. just not one built on bigotry

@tk @ariadne blocked and reported

@ariadne okay i'll bite, what could Alpine do with $12m

@ariadne @davidcelis I honestly have no idea what Alpine would do with that much money. I would like to know.

@ariadne @davidcelis Forget alpine. Just give it to Arch. You know the distro on top of Omarchy is based.

@ariadne@social.treehouse.systems @davidcelis@xoxo.zone $12 million is a lot of money, that is so much money that even if it was split up evenly between 100 different OSS projects it still would've been a world changing amount of money for each of them, when most non-corpo FOSS projects operate on budgets measured in toothpicks and pennies even just a couple digits in a single donation is already huge, a full $12m is unimaginable

but no throw it all down the toilet into some fascist vanity distro where it'll make a difference to approximately nobody of value ig, great job society

@delta@mk.absturztau.be @ariadne@social.treehouse.systems @davidcelis@xoxo.zone the market for fascist grifters is huge, fascism is also somewhat correlated with wealth

The horrors, naturally, get washed away by marketing speak

@ariadne @davidcelis isn’t that probably the root of the problem? Why invest in change, that you can’t control, when you can invest in things staying great for you?

@davidcelis wait people pay money for arch + hyprlnd with ruby installed on it?

@fernfractals @davidcelis no, but corporations do

you should see that shit's list of donors

@davidcelis it is insane, I know people falling for it. very sad

@davidcelis Agreed, it’s depressing to witness. Just very very wealthy people throwing their money around congratulating each other over essentially nothing.

Startup LARPinv with a side of PAC, or the other way around?

@otherdog @davidcelis

@davidcelis it does feel as if some people with bad politics (but a taste for free stuff) found issue with the reality that desktop Linux was a social warrior project, and are taking panicked corrective steps to "fix" it.

@MaddieM4 @davidcelis
I wonder what Linus himself would think about the attribution "social warrior project"...

@davidcelis it’s insane and never saw it coming.
I feel at the beginning everyone was making fun of how useless it was and suddenly I’m swamped with “coder influencers” saying it’s the second coming of christ

@davidcelis it's aligned interests aligning

@davidcelis a lot of people were waiting for an excuse to funnel money into fascism in open source, and DHH created an institution for this purpose

@davidcelis dhh is the jia tan of fundraising https://0xcc.io/posts/omarchy-root-creds/

@glyph @davidcelis hey now; Jia Tan is a fucking legend and that exploit took some real skill to get in there.  Let’s not insult a real one, here…

@davidcelis @glyph can you really put a price on trivial eval() injection vulnerabilities

@SnoopJ @davidcelis @glyph Going to Omafashcon to hand out USB drives named “sudo rm -rf /“

@SnoopJ @davidcelis @glyph this is probably how they got the money

@davidcelis @glyph I think it’s ultimately about alignment of the wider liberal FLOSS world to fascist tech bros’ ideology.

https://chaos.social/@frumble/117176445350575164

#Omacron #Omarchy

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone it's not exactly money laundering, it's how people can take giant amounts of donations that are classified differently under tax laws. There's a lot of things that would otherwise be fairly innocent that exist mostly just to take gift money that ends up funneling into another project, usually politics. The obvious example of this is Super PACs.

It's just now the US is set up with their tax system. This is how you get rich without paying (as many) taxes and without a foreign bank account.

@ada yeah “tax evasion” was more akin to what i meant but i was too mad to get the right words out

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone gets better when you consider both sides get tax relief from this. it's a well known loophole that requires connections and starting capital but it boggles the mind why it hasn't been closed yet. actually it doesn't but you get it.

@davidcelis gee it almost seems like it's some kind of money laundering thing.

@kevingranade you mean… like i said in the post…?

@davidcelis attempting to agree and phrasing it in the worst way possible, sorry.

@davidcelis meanwhile I'm lost, where the heck this thing suddenly came from and why it's talked about so much. I have been truly living under a rock, because I see 10 months ago there was controverse about Framework sponsoring them.

https://crimier.github.io/posts/Framework-Omarchy/

@Tsluijter @davidcelis It is hard to keep up with all the bullshit these days.

@Tsluijter @davidcelis
yeah that annoys me. Desperately hoping Framework have become useful idiots for this bullshit, rather than nrp signalling he's an aspirant to the tech billionaire deadshit community.

@davidcelis … so how much can I get for my dotfiles? How ‘bout my dotfiles and helpers in ~/bin ?

@ShadSterling @davidcelis Unless you‘re a rich fascist, 'bout tree fiddy.

@davidcelis

WTF is Omarchy?

...

Hang on... I can google...

Oh...

What the...

Why?

Fuck these guys.

What a bunch of fuck'n tossers.

Does anybody even try anymore?

@401matthall @davidcelis You made me google Omarchy and now I want to shoot up an arsenic and cyanide cocktail.

@elfin @401matthall @davidcelis I heard about it and constructed an image of it in my head, and it was, at least,

a distro

@davidcelis yes it’s a way for rich people to pass around money and utilize tax law to their gain and to circularly inflate others in the group. Just like membership in the Rails foundation is essentially a way to buddy up with DHH and Tobi

@davidcelis

No, a money laundering scheme would look more sensible at first glance.

@davidcelis I always liked it when distros made things easier for newbies but this one is just plain stupid defaults and for once, I'll be an annoying elitist "if you claim to be an advanced user or want to became one but you pick this trash of a wannabe distro, instead of I don't know reading the archwiki and installing arch that way and configuring whatever WM by again reading docs, then you are not a true advanced user but just a noob wanting to be called an expert".

- vanilla arch user

@pikachu_sensei @davidcelis I mean easier Arch distros already exist. Manjaro immediately springs to mind. EndeavourOS doesn't look to be anti anything they're for per se even. So, regardless, they're definitely not providing anything new or different.

Honestly, I'm leaning towards the OP being right that there are some suspicious scammy things going on here. Definitely some money laundering, but who knows... At the very least they want to put something dangerous out there...

@nazokiyoubinbou @davidcelis I was saying that because youtubers are presenting this spin ( it definitely isn't a distro) like a user friendly option for newbies that don't want to configure a WM. It isn't and honestly catchy os is a much better option for people who want a pre-configured setup, although I wouldn't recommend new linux users anything arch based because when things go wrong, it's not a pleasant experience. I keep seeing more videos on it and honestly it feels like paid promotion.

@nazokiyoubinbou @davidcelis The person behind the project was more than enough for me to reject this but now I am finding technical reasons too and it's just horrible. And four combo shortcuts in keyboard, seriously that alone triggers me. I personally prefer no more than three and that too feels too much.

@davidcelis It's (political) advertising. Some sort of software-as-lifestyle concept and probably an attempt to vaguely get people to "like" some guys (or at least buy into the "idc politics i just like the thing they made" thing) and start somewhat agreeing with them maybe occasionally perhaps.

@davidcelis those donors are billionaires, they don't need to launder a bunch of millions. This is just part of the culture war.

@dukeboitans @davidcelis !!

@davidcelis Oh God, that DOES explain it!

@davidcelis I don’t think it’s money laundering or whatever. I think it’s just a racist billionaires propping up each other. It’s just a sign that they too much money and would rather shuffle it around to each other

@davidcelis@xoxo.zone my theory is that it's a dogwhistle, conspicuous consumption of fascist aligned products for the sake of supporting fascism without saying you're just a fascist.

@davidcelis youtube has been flooded lately with omarchy videos and it makes it so easy to play whackamole with the block button.

@davidcelis it's a small price to pay for a honeypot to catch all the fasc-curious Linux fanbois. My money is on them turning this into a nerd "active club"

@davidcelis @lisamelton I had to look up Omarchy and then landed on the 37 Signals website and it’s weird. It reads like propaganda.

@christopherbrown @lisamelton oh that’s just because it is!

@davidcelis it's twelve now?

@davidcelis seems like pretty colors will go a long, long way with technologically illiterate people who have money to throw around

@davidcelis the injustice that anyone who works on arch must feel right now...

@davidcelis so there is a lot of .hidden magic in this system? Gotta see that for myself.

@davidcelis lmao wait what who’s the fascist… i too am willing to sell my dotfiles and am 100x fascism for the low low price of just €1M

@davidcelis the whole thing reeks of manufacturing respectability (and likely setting up some channels for further nonsense)

@davidcelis It's just a corruption vehicle. The "product" is irrelevant

@davidcelis
It has to be ideological, doesn't it? They want to make the FOSS ecosystem fascist and "un-woke".

@davidcelis wow ... that must be quite the home.nix that guy was running I'd ask for my money back if the shell prompt isn't the most beautiful thing anyone ever saw.