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EA staff fear new Saudi Arabia owners will police their games: "Projects just won't get signed because they don't align explicitly with what the Saudi government wants"

www.gamesradar.com/games/ea-staff-fear-new-saudi-arabia-owners-will-police-their-games-projects-just-wont-get-signed-because-they-dont-align-explicitly-with-what-the-saudi-government-wants/
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It is so funny to me that the Saudis would invest into a creative industry that thrives on letting artists make what they think is right and then forbid them from doing that. And also expect that industry to then operate profitably, even though they just removed the basic foundation of that industry.

But there is no talking and arguing with people like that, so we can just get popcorn, watch and enjoy the Schadenfreude.

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My take is that the Saudis were incredibly fortunate to be sitting on a resource that has had inelastic demand for decades. So fortunate in fact that they didn’t get good at anything else that wasn’t related to oil.

They’ve known for some time that the oil reserves can’t sustain them forever so they’ve dabbled in investments in various industries with lacklustre results.

Their recent foray into gaming is symbolic of this. An industry that bleeds cash without the creative talent that underpins it. I mean Microsoft is a good example of when ‘business’ intersects with the production of art.

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Has EA really made creative games recently though? I’m looking at their recent games list and it’s mostly: Madden, EA Sports, The Sims 4 DLC, NHL, Battlefield, Plants vs Zombies, etc. Sequels and remakes basically. With notable exceptions by subsidiary companies like Split Fiction.

Like, if you’re going to buy any company, the one where you make almost the exact same game every year and everyone still buys it is probably a safe bet.

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With notable exceptions by subsidiary companies like Split Fiction.

Yeah. No they haven’t.

EA is just a big bundle that they were able to buy at all with a huge pile of cash. Going around the globe, chasing studios that do this and that is a ton of work and takes forever and is not really a good strategy.

I think they’re betting on exactly that recurring structure of licensed sports games.

But that still depends on letting artists do some amount of stuff. For example a bunch of sports outfits may clash with strict Islam. Same for Sims.

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Assholes like this have zero, ZERO, concept of why creative work is popular. Even “corporate created” work. On an extreme end, as far as they are concerned they could turn The SIMS into “Saudi Life Simulator” and people will still buy it because “Its The SIMS.”

They don’t see the creativity or the why, they just see “popular brand”.

There are plenty of other examples of this out there.

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Google suppression is the more prolific cause of censorship, not the least in criticisms of large firms.

They are in effect running a protection racket. If a company pays them to not show search results, they won’t show them. Ie, best buy’s now since 2021 defective electronics. The only hits on social media that are even close to what you are asking for, are forums run by the manufacturers that sold you the defective merchandise.

There is no bottom to this path we are on.

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Maybe, but I don’t think the Saudi rulers are lead particularly by belief. That’s just some physical world nonsense to keep the plebs in check.

What leads them is money, and the fear that all that oil money they’ve relied on for the last 100 years or so is going to run out at some point.

That’s why games like It Takes Two and Mass Effect will be culled. That’s why it’ll be wall-to-wall live-service war-slop and sports-slop until the day everyone with even a hint of creativity quits, and then it carries on anyway in a shambling AI form. And people will still lap it up.

Replying to @⁨yucandu@lemmy.world⁩

um sweaty it’s called battlefield, CoD is owned by Activison which is run by the Epstein affilicated people like Bobby Kotick , and not the journalist murdering saudis.

www.gamespot.com/articles/…/1100-6537858/

en.wikipedia.org/…/Assassination_of_Jamal_Khashog…

GameSpotEpstein Files Reveal Gaming Connections, Plans To Buy Activision StockJeffrey Epstein was apparently interested in owning a share of Activision because of Call of Duty.

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I’m going to get downvoted to oblivion, I’m fully aware.

There are many things I don’t know anything about. But I do know a fair bit about this area.

And with great respect to the worriers, this just will not happen.

The investment team that’s bought EA have many other “western” investments they’ve never interfered with, even though they do a great deal of things that the orthodoxy in Saudi Arabia would disagree with. The layers between “what I [claim] to believe” and “make me the most amount of money” are many and includes people from all over the world. If anyone thinks Saudi royalty will sit and make determinations about what games EA will ship they can stop worrying right now. The Saudi monarchy is worrying about two things only: As much money as possible and staying in power.

This is an investments like so many others. It will be ordered to profit-maximise - and if that requires one-upping Doom in gore, and shipping a new edition of Gay Paradise 2000 every 6 months - they will do exactly that.

This is a complete storm in a tea cup.

Replying to @⁨sunbeam60@feddit.uk⁩

The Saudi monarchy hates Islam and is shackled by it. Saudi Arabia had been on a “liberalization” plan under MBS, and it’ll be western soon enough.

They’re following UAE’s doorsteps, and they’re even worse. You can now buy alcohol in public in UAE. You need a license (pay money and don’t be Muslim) or be a tourist, but it’s otherwise unrestricted. You can already wear almost nothing and you can literally be a Zionist who calls Muslims snakes and terrorist and you’ll be welcomed on a red carpet.

Saudi wants that, they just don’t have control tight enough over their population to get away with that yet.

So yes, they will not enforce Sharia on EA games, they’re hoping one day they don’t have to do any "moral’ restrictions on content domestically. As long as it brings in money.

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You did say two contradictory things here. You said they won’t interfere, but also the only thing they care about is staying in power. This isn’t exclusive to them, but they will use it to maintain their power if it’s useful for that. If a game was going to be critical of them, it probably won’t be made. (It probably wouldn’t have been anyway, because the only thing that could come from it, for the former owners, is losing investments.) Yeah, they don’t care about Islam. That’s fair game, but they aren’t.

Replying to @⁨rumba@lemmy.zip⁩

You’re not wrong, but I feel like there are subtle levels to these things.

If I start up a game and a logo comes up for Namco or Square Enix or whatever, most of them don’t make me think, “oh, I remember that time their owners assassinated a journalist, it made the international news, and they fully got away with it anyway.” That’s no longer the case for an EA logo.