Well, sure, but when everyone loses their fucking minds about the tiniest thing, that even requires us to buy all the lies from billionaires about how much the build out will be, while having never done anything about the biggest thing they could personally change, it starts sounding mightily hypocritical.

It seems like the personal responsibility to boycott polluting and unnecessary industries is limited to whatever doesn’t require any personal effort from the person speaking.

Napkin math:

• 40% of americans are very or extremely concerned about AIs environmental impact
• To save 34 million tonnes of CO2e, you need about 5.2 million vegans from now until 2030
• So only 5% of ONLY the complainers would need to go vegan to make up for this “tremendous” impact
• That’s 2% of all americans

That’s the thing we’re even attacking random strangers online for. The thing that we pretend is going to bring about the end times. But sure, veganism is the extreme position…

By the way, what other resources are we saving?

• Water — about 8.8 trillion gallons (~33 billion m³)
• Land — around 1–1.5 million acres of forest/land
• Animals — roughly 8 billion animals including fish and shellfish

More than one thing can be bad.

Why don’t we do both? Less AI, Less Meat

Also, I’m not American, don’t insult me by assuming I’m one

Or, just eat less meat and you can still have AI

Sounds like a bad solution to me

or have double meat and no ai.

Bad for heart health, unless it’s chicken which already has much lower emissions in the first place

AI is bad for your brain and society, so there’s that.

AI is great for society. Just because it’s still in its early years doesn’t mean we won’t have better uses for it later.

Sure, just handwave the damage and fast forward a century.

That’s the only way we can get out of having to do boring, repetitive jobs literately forever until the end of time.

Yeah such as (checks notes) Art, Music, Writing and joy, so we can (checks notes) be the condom between Claude and Production, be a babysitter for a stupid AI, and have our livelihoods destroyed.

I love that

Not everyone likes AI art or music. I have no qualms about AI email spam. I am cheering for the “corporate email marketing” team to be eliminated as a position

Well yeah, that’s cause you’re a shill with no sense of taste and bad opinions

Ah, you’re just a dipshit, fair

So less food variety and I get trash for the trade, are you the White run merchant buying any random crap the Dragonborn drags in by any chance?

Listen, I didn’t say you can’t ever eat meat. Just eat a single patty hamburger instead of a double. It’s not less food variety, it’s called not gorging yourself on things that are bad for your heart health.

Dude I barely eat half the time, regardless it’s a piss poor trade given how AI is quite literally worthless to me. It could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn’t notice if no one talked about it at least for the shit that these data centers are for. For all the resources dumped into this dumbfuck AI race we could’ve done damned near anything else and have gotten more value for it with a fraction of the economic and environmental cost, even a bridge to nowhere has better utility.

So how’s bout we go down the have no AI and do literally anything else bargain.

It’s useless to you, but not to other people. Libraries are useless to me because I pirate books, but I’m not going to say it’s a waste

Where do you think the pirated books come from?

Usually library copies

Usually the new releases are from people who personally bought them, not people who wait for them to be put in a library.

Last few physical books I read I just bought because they were rare

Oh I forgotten y’all are Americans, where your libraries have to wait for books instead of getting a copy pretty much immediately

Much more realistic: 6% of amicans that eat mostly vegan

12% of Americans that often choose a vegan meal multiple times per week, seems realistic too.

A quarter of Americans eating more chicken because it’s better for the environment is even more realistic. Chicken is tasty!

Personally I’ll never go Vegan simply out of spite because no matter what is being discussed there’s ALWAYS some asshole inserting veganism into the topic.

Veganism might be great for the environment, but as long as you(they) continue to act worse than especially obnoxious Jehovah’s Witnesses, veganism can go fuck itself.

If I devoured one cow every time some vegan asshole spoke up in a thread that was on a completely different topic, cows would be extinct.

What whiny little bitch you are.

I’m not even vegan. But meat eating morons signal posting that they’re sick of vegans are way more common and annoying than vocal vegans.

Its such a overplayed prejudice for as long as i can remember. I came across overreaching vegans which actually annoyed me maybe five times in my life. Signalposting meatheads are more like a weekly occurance.

Random vegan at a bbq “hey, can i have small sliver of aluminum foil for my stuff and if you guys dont halfintentionally wrench the meatjuices over my veggies, that would be cool” What always follows: 10-30 minute moronic rant of some meathead because eating meat is his whole personality.

I’m not vegan and yours is a shitty take, sorry to have to tell you this.

So you’re a childish contrarían asshole, who cares

Finally looked in a mirror eh?

Try harder halfwit