Мя ��@mo@mastodon.ml

Imagine, you made a good service. Or got in control of a service, and made it good. Doesn't really matter what service it actually is, imagine whatever you think first

People are impressed. They like your service. You get a stable paying audience, and your business feels confident in tomorrow

Then your reputation spreads. People from everywhere hear of you, and want to use your service, instead of one they currently use, because their service sucks

Then this gets to a point, where you simply can't fit all these people in
Some old-timers start spreading toxicity, because they don't feel elite anymore

What'd you do? Do you limit entering? Add face-control? Kick newcomers, because they aren't your true customers? Support that elitist group and see what they'd do?

Nah, that would be really stupid way of doing business. Instead, you scale up. Get more resources, and put them into providing good service to more people. Moderate toxics

But why on earth, when it's about governments...

wizzwizz4@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

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@mo To take a pre-modern perspective: Westphalian sovereignty, which is in part a defence against colonialism and territorial war.

Who defines "better"? How do you get more resources? especially land, which is probably being used by someone else, but needs to be adjacent to your existing land, for practical reasons. Why are you in control of this service, anyway? (Because at that kind of scale, the vast majority of the work was not done by you.) These questions rarely have good answers.

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Мя ��@mo@mastodon.ml

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@wizzwizz4
> Who defines "better"
me^W basically if people want to use it more, it's very likely better

> how do you get more resources
idk like buy it, trade, cooperate or smth, I'm not a politician

> especially land
...use what you have more efficiently. Earth is really far from it's limit

> Why are you in control of this service
doesn't really matter, but let's say The Board from the astral plane approved me

> Vast majority of work was not done by you
yeah, but usually services have like a director, who's only job is to choose where service will go, and direct others towards this goal

wizzwizz4@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org

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@mo The things you're glossing over are the reasons things don't work that way. Most of the issues are just "we don't know how to" and "there's no political will", but there are a few genuinely-difficult challenges here.

High-density land use requires you to remove what's currently on that land, for the whole time you're constructing high-density buildings (or undepleted soil, or whatever), which requires relocating whatever's there (at least temporarily). This precludes naïve allocation.

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