Replying to @⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩

Shout out to Fluxer.

Still don’t think its quite ready but its chugging along and its been fun following the progress. I know they have some big updates inbound. Hopefully people actually give it a shot and flip over to Fluxer.

I’d also add that the “Proton” subscrition equivalent - “Plutonium”, is a better value proposition. But I will admit, they still need to clear a few hurdles before even I feel completely comfortable ditching Discord.

But its Open Source and it has a self-hosting option, along with the Quality of Life you expect from Discord in terms of the app layout, screen sharing, etc.

Replying to @⁨defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩

I wouldn’t call it a shit show, they were first in E2E encrypted collaborative messaging platforms and get all the hits. Moderation turned out to be incompatible with E2E encryption. People kicked out of channels can still decrypt because keys revocation hasn’t been made.

Matrix server is a resource hog and a mess, and the protocol has never took off to spark alternative implementations.

Encryption doesn’t scale well for big channels.

They got many things right, but got crippled by many things they couldn’t possibly predict.

Edited ⁨⁨Sep⁩ ⁨29⁩, ⁨2026⁩, ⁨10:58⁩⁩en