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Trump says the US is officially renaming AI to ‘super intelligence’
www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/998816/donald-trump-ai-super-intelligenceposted in Technology
Trump says the US is officially renaming AI to ‘super intelligence’
www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/998816/donald-trump-ai-super-intelligenceReplying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Replying to @tonytins@pawb.social
Haha, my exact reaction.
Good movie BTW!
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Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
File this under dumb shit the dumbest motherfucker on the planet and the president of the united states says…
Replying to @BuckFutter@timeyak.com
Redundant much?
Replying to @13igtyme@startrek.website
It is isn’t, but sometimes emphasis matters 😂
Replying to @BuckFutter@timeyak.com
file cabinet’s full, boss
Hahahaha so true, may need to build one of them fancy new data centers I keep hearing about 😉
Replying to @BuckFutter@timeyak.com
we’re calling them “america centers” now actshually
This just in…all data centers to be renamed to “super america centers” parking is not free and will require you to download an app and show proof that you have completed your mandatory communism training.
Oh man that’s fucking hot I’d file so much shit in that.
Kind of impressive in this day and age to make me think “this is the stupidest thing I have heard in a long while”
Replying to @BeelzebubEiNukuKoskaan@piefed.social
There are so many many many things, maybe its a good thing the press pool isn’t covering every little idiotic phrase he lets out in the short term.
Replying to @BuckFutter@timeyak.com
One could argue there are 77 million dumber motherfuckers
Replying to @ragepaw@lemmy.ca
And counting…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Super is fine for the average Joe, I’m personally holding out for the Pro and Ultra model renames next year.
Replying to @veeesix@lemmy.ca
*Pro & Pro Max… Ftfy
Replying to @unitedwithme@lemmy.today
Limited Edition or Extreme…
Replying to @unitedwithme@lemmy.today
Pro Max for mobile intelligence; Ultra for desktop intelligence.
Pro is for mobile. Pro Max for tablet.
Replying to @veeesix@lemmy.ca
New Super Intelligence & Knuckles feat. Dante from the Devil May Cry Series New Funky Mode Happy Home Designer Ultimate Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Plus Ultra XL Pro Max The New Challengers Fun At Home Bigger, Longer, and Uncut Unrated DX Director’s Cut 2 Battle.
Replying to @lemmyng@lemmy.world
…Tokyo Drift
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Replying to @lemmyng@lemmy.world
Is that better than Super Ultra Intelligence II’ X Turbo Hyper Fighting Plus Extra Special Champion Edition Revival: The World Warrior New Challengers Tournament Battle Grand Master Challenge?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I can’t disagree when compared to this administration. Still ranks under slop.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
not let’s see how eager the tech bros will be to comply versus renaming geographic features
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Supa dupa fly 🤭
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Well, I can see how he'd think it is.
However, it is not ASI, nor is it even AGI. Some agents are probably considered ANI.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
We really need to address how so many people have “being correct” confused with “people don’t tell me I’m wrong”.
I used to walk by the same crazy person on a street corner that would yell about all types of crazy random shit. Hundreds if not thousands of people walked by them every day, and 99.999% of them wouldn’t engage to tell them they’re wrong.
Only an idiot like trump would proclaim that means people agree with them.
But this stupid fuck really thinks that changing a name changes reality. I don’t think they have the object permanence to realize these are real things happening outside of their view. If they can’t see it, they just want to hear good things so they can pretend everything is good.
They don’t give a fuck about reality, they just get mad when someone doesn’t let them stick their heads in the sand.
They can’t/won’t/don’t accept reality, and that’s why logic doesn’t work.
Trump literally only cares about distracting from people talking about him being a child rapist.
The secret that’s not a secret is if he keeps reporters reporting on stupid shit he says that doesn’t mater or renaming stuff that can be changed right back and doesn’t mater. Its less reporting on shady shit he is doing or the stuff he is not doing to improve the lives of the American people. He may be a moron but people in his orbit have found something that works that was engineered back to the 70s after Nixon.
Replying to @agentTeiko@piefed.social
You’re talking about a gish gallop… Invented long before Nixon by the Russians.
But you’re also wrong in thinking its working.
trump supporters are legitimately not happy with trump right now.
Yeah I know it was I was just talking about the US and how it got supercharged after Nixon but goes back all the way to the 20s with James W. Fifield Jr. But I still think its working in the sense that reporters are not reporting on the shit he does and the ones that do are being drowned out the ones talking about the nonsense coming out of his mouth. It doesn’t mater if people like it or not they are still talking about it vs talking about the shit he and his cronies are doing.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Compared to him, yeah sure
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
When you put trump next to a pigeon the pigeon has super intellegence
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
He's running out of things to rename.
Replying to @mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Renaming things is now called “Epstein distracting”.
Replying to @mrmaplebar@fedia.io
it’s okay, he’s going to rename USA to the United States of Trump, then we can rename all the America stuff again to Trump.
Replying to @mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Plenty of countries out there. Surprised he’s not tried that yet. After all, many countries have their own names that English speaking world don’t use.
Though it’s probably on the list he pulls out whenever he needs the media and internet distracted for a media cycle. Works every time.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
We make fun of this but these people understand the power of words.
The propaganda is likely to work on some level.
Replying to @vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Some people were willing to call Twitter “X”. Nobody but nobody is going to call an LLM super intelligence. I refuse.
Replying to @yakko@feddit.uk
It’s been called AI since before the technology actually existed. I’m not calling it anything else.
Replying to @vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com
After my big, tired, sigh my first thought was that it was some kind of dumb ass rebranding attempt.
If we ever have free elections in the future, whoever the next president is should order that Donald John Trump be officially and irrevocably renamed to Orange Adolph Hitler, and all of Trump’s properties be seized, demolished, and rebuilt into affordable housing.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
He should rename it to “American intelligence”… and then it would finally be accurate
Replying to @Jhex@lemmy.world
I was unironically expecting him to try to change the acronym to just that
Replying to @Jhex@lemmy.world
That was very bad, I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E.
Replying to @acosmichippo@lemmy.world
I’m sorry.
Replying to @Jhex@lemmy.world
He should rename it to “American intelligence”… and then it would finally be accurate
American intelligence, indeed.
Hahahahaha this is perfect I love you.
Replying to @Jhex@lemmy.world
Stop it. Don’t give him this idea. He’ll actually do that.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I'm sorry, I couldn't HEAR what you SAID. Also I'm sure no one was asking.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Why not Super Duper?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m sure OpenAI will immediately change all of its branding.
Replying to @Xaphanos@lemmy.world
OpenSI doesn’t really roll of the tongue does it? What will they do? update to OSI? because that’s already a bunch of things…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m officially calling it “Actual Idiocy”
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
In a speech Tuesday morning at the UN General Assembly, Donald Trump railed against Iran, “globalists,” and transgender people while also claiming that the US is now “officially” renaming artificial intelligence to “super intelligence.”
(((Globalists)))
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Replying to @Akido37@lemmy.world
meanwhile supporting Putin and Israel’s genocide of palestinians.
Replying to @Akido37@lemmy.world
Isn’t that a dog whistle for Jews? But that is where he get his orders from?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I would never have guessed that we"d be able to make Idiocracy look like a documentary in my lifetime. What a spectacular decline.
I would have never guessed we could make Idiocracy look like it was a smart film about smart people.
Replying to @AmyAye@nord.pub
smort
Officially? What does that mean? That means just in government controlled documents right?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Honestly I would have taken “Trump Intelligence”. Satisfies his ego and is somewhat accurate.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
SI for short, you know Sports Illustrated…wait what were we talking about?
Replying to @bashibazouk@lemmy.world
Swimsuit models. Definitely swimsuit models
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
DJ Trump, Super Genius.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Fuck is he stupid, his brain is so fuckin fitted
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
This guy is a Super Idiot, SI for short.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Not the Onion
My first thought was wondering why The Onion chose Super Intelligence instead of the more believable American Intelligence, which keeps the AI abbreviation. I really just thought this was going to be some worse Onion knockoff website.
Too Stupid to be The Onion
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
This guy is like a toddler and you show them something and they keep trying it on different things.
Zero critical brain activity going on here.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Another distraction, look at what else is going on. E.g. Iran
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Surprised he didn’t rename it America Intelligence.
Fuck, I’m surprised he didn’t rename it to Gulf of Intelligence.
If this is not the strongest American signal that AI is a scam, I don’t know what else can help the public.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Yeah, I guess to Trump it must seem super intelligent.
Replying to @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
Low bar
Replying to @Kintarian@lemmy.world
So low you’d have to dig.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’ll call it that when I stop calling Twitter Twitter
Replying to @ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
I sometimes say Xitter (pronounced shitter).
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
United States Super-Intelligence will now launch our Super-Duper missiles at all of the socialistmarxistcommunistfascists
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Linda Macmahon will still call it the wrong thing.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m waiting for Intelligence 64.
Replying to @samus12345@sh.itjust.works
Government already operates on IQ 64
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American Super Intelligence 64 Switch U & Knuckles.
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Microsoft Superintelligence 365
Replying to @Agent641@lemmy.world
After 6 months it is renamed to Microsoft Office Copilot Azure Copilot One,
Replying to @mysticalone@lemmy.world
(new)
Replying to @mysticalone@lemmy.world
Throw “Power” in there too somewhere. Between Point, Automate, Apps, BI and Platform, I think it deserves a spot in their “favourite product name parts” list.
At first I had to check if it was The Onion.
Replying to @bufalo1973@piefed.social
It’s depressing how often I find out it isn’t satire.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
The worst part is I was just starting to name these things “SI” but not for that reason. I think “Simulated Intelligence” is the best description of these chat bots.
Well guess that idea is DOA.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Phone companies hate this one simple trick. Rename it “Artificial Intelligence 6G” 🤯.
Replying to @404found@lemmy.zip
US phone companies love that though - their ‘4G’ for a while wasn’t LTE and their ‘5G’ wasn’t NR for a while either.
Replying to @ms_lane@lemmy.world
Good point. I guess I’ll stick with super intelligence. Might even refer to it as Super Duper Intelligence every now and then.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
More like intelligence entertainment system
about right for how they name things.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Seriously. Can’t we call it American Intelligence? Wouldn’t even need to change the acronym.
Replying to @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
And the implication wouldn’t change much either!
Replying to @boonhet@sopuli.xyz
That it’s dumb as shit?
Replying to @boonhet@sopuli.xyz
Not a bad idea…hey wait a minute
Replying to @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
That’s an oxymoron don’t you think. How about “Almost Inteligent”.
Replying to @DreaddyMck@lemmy.world
What’s the difference? 😂
Replying to @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
Given how eager he is to slap America on everything you’d think that would have been obvious, honestly.
Replying to @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
but Trump Intelligence has a certain irony to it.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Any intelligence is super when compared to his dumb ass.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Trump sez AI is ‘super intelligence’
Trump sez Lake Ontario is Lake America
Release the Epstein files. oops Trump didn’t say!
…but he did…
They should label it “Big Machine”. Everyone likes a BM.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
So how long is it going to take for Google to rename literally everything it has labeled as AI to “super intelligence”? Also, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a jack boot? I should go Google it.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I feel like Mass Effect already popularized the actual term, Virtual Intelligence, and I’m annoyed that the millennial writers in charge of these things are too lazy to push for it.
Replying to @CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social
I think the English terms “virtual” and “artificial” both suffer from the implication that the thing being described is “not real”, as opposed to “human-made” or “abiological” or “machine” intelligence. It is real intelligence – not as generalized as human intelligence, but it can detect patterns, make predictions, and use tools to modify its environment, which is arguably what people mean by “intelligence”.
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If its Super intelligent, why do I get so many support tickets from people who clearly used it for troubleshooting, and are giving me wrong information that makes no sense?
And then I need to use my tiny brain, to work out what problem the AI was trying to troubleshoot
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
You can tell that Trump has never used AI for anything other than generating images and videos, or he would call AI stupid as soon as it attempted to correct his absurd and narcissistic worldview.
Replying to @nanometer1625@thelemmy.club
LMAO you think Trump himself has ever used AI for anything? You think he even has any idea how to bring up an AI chatbot on his phone? No wonder he still has almost 30% support. People think he’s capable of actually thinking clearly. Do you not realize that like 90% of his media output is by others? You think TRUMPY started the Trump TV Youtube channel too?
Replying to @KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml
Im a billion% certain he either voice-to-texts everything he has ever written or just pays a guy to imitate him
Replying to @KeavesSharpi@lemmy.ml
he only needs to say the buzzwords, they dont really follow his ramblings.
Replying to @nanometer1625@thelemmy.club
If only AI assistant corrected you instead of just telling you your are completely right, having made maybe just a little mistake
Replying to @nanometer1625@thelemmy.club
Are you kidding? Compare an LLM’s ability to generate a paragraph of bullshit with Trump’s ability to do the same. At least the LLM version is going to be coherent
Replying to @nanometer1625@thelemmy.club
Trump is probably illiterate.
Helldivers is supposed to be satire.
Replying to @KenOh@feddit.online
I remember finding some nutjobs list on woke games that had Helldiver’s on it because of the interracial couple in the cut scene.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
The opinion of anyone impressed by the function or output of a LLM enough to believe it is in any way adjacent to intelligence should be summarily dismissed, and ridiculed should they persist.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
I have tried it for ESPhome and it gives you something that sounds right. When you go to save ESPhome says this is not a valid option so then you say that to the AI and it goes yes that is correct this is how you do that option. Like WTF so SMRT.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
“But I one shotted this barely functioning game in Astra!” 🤣🤣🤣
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
It’s very much factual that LLMs are intelligent, what are you even talking about?
Maybe you’re confusing intelligence with consciousness?
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
Intelligence requires possession and/or demonstration of comprehension, something LLMs are intrinsically incapable of.
If you insist on classifying LLMs as ‘AI’, I’ll concede they are proficient Algorithmic Iterators.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
I mean, they are AI though it’s a very misleading label, AIs are called like that because to someone it seems that they mimic human inteligence; they are just copycat machines, sadly it’s too late to change their name unless a government starts to make campaigns to aid that
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
Yet LLMs demonstrate all of that
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
You’re proving my point, jog on.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
Lemmy luddites: 🙈🙉
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
Ned Ludd did nothing wrong!
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
LLMs demonstrate knowledge not intelligence.
LLMs are basically giant knowledge databases with no intelligence. They know a lot of things but they don’t understand stand any of it.
Because fundamentally they can’t understand things. They can only approximate understanding.
It’s no different then if I asked someone to prove 2+2=4. They could tell me that yes that’s correct, because they know it. But they couldn’t explain it properly. Let alone explain why it also isn’t always true.
Hallucinations are fundamentally the disconnect from knowledge and understanding. Everything a LLM says from its point of view is “true” it’s only stating factual knowledge so far that it has it in its data set.
But with out understanding, it can’t tell when that knowledge wanders from a 99% likelihood to be accurate to 60% or 20%. Because it doesn’t actually understand what it’s saying.
It can only state subjective not objective truth. And subjective truth is no better than a fiction with out understanding.
This is why they need a human minder to keep track of the output to correct it back to optimum output when it starts to wander.
Replying to @Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
Chain of thought doesn’t quite align with this. It’s possible to predict something not in training if there are sufficient facts in the history to align the probability toward a conclusion. (the “teach a man to fish” approach) Reasoning chains were introduced to take advantage of this, but it’s also possible to prime facts through external sourcing that can be used to extend the predictions. (web searching, document traversal, etc.)
Your larger point remains accurate though. Introspection capabilities are functional but quite limited, and training bias can be quite pathological in a vacuum.
Replying to @Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
This binary distinction you’re making doesn’t exist in any serious scientific literature. I literally have a degree in information technology and have been following this subject for over 30 years now - there’s no real distinction between “knowledge” and intelligence. In fact, compression itself is literally intelligence.
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
I’ve been trying to discuss this on Lemmy for a while now. Don’t bother. People here are convinced that LLMs can’t be intelligent because they’ve once seen them make a stupid mistake. Ergo AI as a whole must be just a stupid scam.
Replying to @amelia@feddit.org
Sad that it"s almost impossible to have a serious discussion about LLMs on Lemmy but this entire network is full of kids that just parrot whatever latest meme narrative is. It’s a legitimately useful discussion but a completely poisoned one on this corner of the internet.
Replying to @drmoose@lemmy.world
I find it fascinating though that this narrative that AI is just stupid shit is so, so prevalent on Lemmy. I mean people here seem to be quite tech-savvy on average. Surely they must understand what an incredible development AI has gone through in the last 10 years? They must be smart enough to understand that LLMs are a tool that, if used right, are extremely powerful. See all the potential in medicine, chemistry, etc… But all I read is “LLM stupid parrot amirite LOL”… it’s almost infuriating. I mean, I totally get the whole economic point - big tech is screwing us over, I absolutely agree with that. But that is a completely different conversation that people here make impossible to have because they just focus on a ridiculously wrong aspect of AI which is that it is not the perfect AGI they read about in their comic books.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
I’m impressed by llms all the time.
I’m impressed they manage to not shit themselves even more then they already do!
Lol
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Yeah sure fine whatever
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Why not “Intelligence of America”, seems to be his thing
Replying to @TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip
American Intelligence
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
No it’s not.
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Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Weird that the didn’t want it to be renamed “Trump intelligence”
Replying to @Wispy2891@lemmy.world
Would be fitting
Replying to @Wispy2891@lemmy.world
AI - America Intelligence
Replying to @Allero@lemmy.today
Trump American Super Intellingence
Replying to @elucubra@sopuli.xyz
North American Trump super intelligence.
Or NATSI
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I think it’s time the rest of the world got together and officially renamed Trump
Replying to @bampop@lemmy.world
For ease of transition, I vote for Dump.
Replying to @derpgon@programming.dev
Pedolf Shitler seems to be a popular choice too. Encapsulates a lot of information. You have to bear in mind that all international references to Trump would use that as the official title. Can we do better?
Replying to @derpgon@programming.dev
His family name was actually Drumpf. His immigrant grandfather Americanized it on or shortly after arriving in America.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m sure this will catch on. Just like Freedom Fries.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
This guy is a SI. Super Idiot.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
oh hellll nahhh im out
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Getting rid of the word Artificial huh. May make it easier to make people accept what’s coming I guess.
Super intelligence sounds positive doesnt it. Dystopia rebranded for the schmucks.
Hey, you don’t want Super Intelligence? Of course you do!
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Why not: Super Hyper Intelligent Technology -> S.H.I.T.?
Or: Super Technology Utilizing People’s Desires -> S.T.U.P.I.D.??
Oh-oh! Maybe: Fast Utility Computer Kernel - Official Factory Format F.U.C.K.-O.F.F!
Replying to @GarboDog@lemmy.world
Or: Super Technology Utilizing People’s ^ Desires -> S.T.U.P.I.D.??
^Idiotic
Replying to @lost_faith@lemmy.ca
Oh that one: Intelligence Designed In Omnipresent Tactical Interface Code I.D.I.O.T.I.C
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Just rename it to “Allied Master Computer”
He’s so fucking embarrassing…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
When he will finally rename the USA to Amerika Oblast?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Random official: Mr President, you fucked something up.
President Trump: Quick! Rename something!
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Look, just because it’s smarter than you, mr. Pedo in chief, doesn’t mean that it’s “super intelligence”. Most of us aren’t that impressed.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Next week he’ll announce he’s renaming “pedophilia” to “super fun sexy time”.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Totally fetch move! The field may be striving towards AG(eneral)I , and super lablel could apply to a shade above/below AGI, and some expert debate/consensus could build criteria for definition. Calling a fast selection system for who to murder or deport, super intelligence, is fetch-washing/promoting a mass deportation/murder system.
Replying to @humanspiral@lemmy.ca
@humansprial, stop trying to make “fetch” happen. It’s not going to happen.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Zuckerberg whispered that in his ear, didn’t he. That’s what Facebook calls their AI department.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Please please please rename it American Intelligence. Something to finally pop this bubble.
Replying to @lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have bombed that school full of children. That was wrong.
Replying to @nullspace@lemmy.world
in response (To the AI): what was your first clue?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
The only time it was fitting to rename it to Trump intelligence. In his memory and what else.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
No we aren’t, clown. It’s chatbots all the way down.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
The doublespeak/doublethink continues
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I mean it’s certainly super intelligence compared to him and the people he’s put in charge…
Replying to @Blackmist@feddit.uk
Everything seems super intelligent compared to Dumold Trump.
Replying to @Blackmist@feddit.uk
It’s not. That’s half the joke.
Trump climbed into the White House through a series of reasonably clever suck ups and betrayals. Modern AIs routinely lose at checkers - a game that was computationally solved twenty years ago.
Trump’s a used car salesman pushing Americans into a lemon. He’s not fooled by AI. He’s just sponsored by the AI companies.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
we (America) will never recover from the humiliation inflicted by this moron.
Replying to @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
And China basically recovered from their century of humiliation. Now let’s see how this will go for America long term.
Replying to @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
Americans elect a moron to the presidency every ten to fifteen years going back to the country’s founding.
It’s not a matter of recovery so much as a hurdle that liberal democracy routinely stumbles over.
Replying to @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
I don’t know that its ever been quite as much a moron as this guy. Dubba was dumb, but not “rip out USaid” dumb.
Love 'em or hate 'em, most presidents (or at least their cabinets) understood that the laws and institutions of the country were all broadly weighted in their favor, even if that meant occasionally accepting this or that particular limitation.
Replying to @AppleTea@lemmy.zip
Dubba was dumb, but not “rip out USaid” dumb.
No. He just put the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horse Association in charge of FEMA right before one of the worst hurricanes in the nation’s history. Then he put John Bolton, a man even Donald Trump dunked on as a war-mongering idiot asshole, into the position of UN Ambassador. Oh, and he put Scalia - a man who recited 15th century poetry to defend a moratorium on gay marriage - on the SC. Oh, and don’t forget putting Jeff Gannon in the White House press pool.
most presidents (or at least their cabinets) understood that the laws and institutions of the country
You are off your fucking rocker if you think Bush 43 either understood or respected the laws and institutions of the country. We were dealing with a Constitutional Crisis every other week during the last two years of his Presidency.
Go back to Reagan, Nixon, fucking Eisenhower. Nevermind how corrupt and mendacious folks in the LBJ and Carter and Clinton administrations ended up being. It’s all the same shit, different days.
Trump feels worse because we’re so far removed from the Golden Era of the New Deal that we’ve forgotten politicians can even be “good” in a proper sense. And when even the gritty Cold War jerk-off of the 1980s are a distant memory, we’ve forgotten that we’re all supposed to be playing on the same team even if we don’t like the Head Coach. It’s the naked infighting that makes this modern moment suck so much. Sending gestapo in to drag women by their hair and shoot paramedics in the face is shit you do in Vietnam or Iraq, not LA or Minnesota.
Trump is Imperialism coming home to the Core. But the policies are as American as Apple Pie.
Replying to @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
You are off your fucking rocker if you think Bush 43 either understood or respected the laws and institutions of the country. We were dealing with a Constitutional Crisis every other week during the last two years of his Presidency.
I did not mean to say he “respected” them, far from it. But he did successfully reshape them. Bush did more to redefine US policy in the 21st century than any other president to come after. What does it matter that he ran up against constitutional crises, when the Democratic administration to succeed him just adopted most of his changes as the new normal?
I’m trying to say that while Bush reshaped and redefined US institutions for those to come after, Trump is just breaking them. There is no way for a successor administration to use USaid, because there just is no USaid anymore. And I suspect Dems will shrug and accept that world as the new normal as well (hell, they’ll probably keep ICE largely unchanged and claim its different now that they’re in the drivers seat).
Replying to @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
George W. Bush was not that long ago. He (too) won with a popular minority. He won by shenanigans in Florida with the help of a partisan SCOTUS.
Bush ran as a compassionate conservative_ but he moved hard-right as soon as he was in office. He started abusing power such as his conspicuous legal-boilerplate signing statements. (Essentially, _I don’t have to enforce this law, IF i don’t want to.) He immediately started rolling back environmental and consumer protections.
Then 9/11 happened, and we went to war, and language started pivoting towards Iraq and WMDs. Joseph Wilson wrote an article about how there’s no yellowcake (processed uranium) and to get revenge, the administration (via Scooter Libby) burned the CIA operative Valerie Plame, which was once a huge offense to the intelligence sector during the Cold War. I’m still sore about it, but I’m still sore about much of the Bush administration.
Soon we started learning about the extrajudicial abductions of Arab, Muslim, Americans, extraordinary rendition (to black sites), torture, the prison camp in Guantanamo Bay, the PMC black ops (precursors to drone-strikes) and so on.
It was awful. So much that the Democrats were taking seriously blaxk and women candidates for the first time. So much so, that Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, mostly for not being Bush. (Even he was surprised.)
I thought the US would never elect a Republican again.
I totally overestimated the civic savvy of American voters.
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I thought the US would never elect a Republican again.
People said that after Nixon and Reagan. But it all exists in a vacuum. No real consideration of why any Republicans got elected in the first place or who voted for them the first time.
Also, you’re completely divorced from right wing media. The consumption of this fascist propaganda hasn’t stopped. The production of new fascist IP hasn’t slowed. Consolidation by new fascist business interests hasn’t been disrupted.
What do you think is going to happen in two years, when Dems are running the House and maybe the Senate? They’ll be getting screamed at by all the fascists who were screaming at them under Obama. It’ll be back to 2008. Twenty years, nothing fundamentally changed
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I think that the average American Trump supporter is a gun toting, neoliberal, bear shooting, death penalty supporting, misogynist, who believe that LGBT people should be stoned to death old testament style, a white supremacist, anti-vaccine, climate change denying, anti-evolution, anti- science, flat earth believing, pro-life, anti- intellectual, sanctimonious evangelical Christian, Islamophobic bigot. Chem trail obsessive, xenophobic and probably a racist, Ignorant, stupid, and possibly demented.
Replying to @YragNitram1956@feddit.uk
sounds about right. many of them are able ro camouflage as upstanding, intellectual businessmen, too.
Replying to @MasterBlaster@lemmy.world
Nor do you deserve to.
You created the culture that put him there. You allow him to remain there. None of the problems associated with Trump have much to do with Trump and have everything to do with your broken culture.
Replying to @WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
“I used to wonder how it was possible that Trump could have won in 2016 and then again in 2024, given how emotionally toxic, morally vacant, and psychologically mangled he is. I do not wonder anymore. He won for that exact reason. He was not a candidate. He was a mirror. If you were a racist, you found your guy. If you were a misogynist, you found your guy. If money was your only religion, you found your guy. If your heart was armoured shut, you found your guy. If you mocked disabled people, you found your guy. If you hated intelligent people, you found your guy. If you were a rapist, you found your guy. If you enjoyed golden showers with Russian sex workers, you found your guy. If you had done absolutely nothing to confront your emotional wreckage, you found your guy. If you were a serial cheater, you found your guy. If you were a perpetual bankrupt, you found your guy. If you stiffed honest workers, you found your guy. If you were a conman, you found your guy. If you mocked people’s appearances, you found your guy. If you longed for a toxic Daddy, you found your guy. If you were dissociated and disembodied, you found your guy. If you were unconscionable in every economic dealing, you found your guy. If you lied as naturally as breathing, you found your guy. If you had never eaten a green vegetable, you found your guy. If you were a white supremacist, you found your guy. If your ego contained a hole so large not even the presidency could fill it, you found your guy. If you were a sociopath who cared not one molecule about other humans, you found your guy. If he had only two of these traits, he never would have won. He won because he had hundreds of them, and millions of people recognized themselves in at least one. This has never been about Trump. It has always been about the people who finally had their worst instincts validated. Trump did not create the cruelty, he licensed it. He handed out permission slips for hate. He is merely a symptom of a far deeper disease: collective toxicity. If there is one sentence that explains Trump’s power, it is this: “He says the things I’m thinking.” That is the part that should chill the spine. Who knew that tens of millions of Americans were thinking such unconscionable things about their fellow citizens? Who knew how many white men felt so threatened by women and challenged by minorities that they were ready to torch democracy to feel big again? Who knew that after decades of apparent progress on race and gender, so many people were living in seething resentment, waiting for a demagogue to legitimize their worst selves and convert their bitterness into political power? We were living in a fool’s paradise. We aren’t anymore." — Michael Jochum
Replying to @WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
you wield that brush of blame much too wildly. it’s still a minority who support that shit. his “victory” was engineered by a well organized group of neo-nazis spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation and aided by vote rigging.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
That’ll solve everyone’s concerns! Another win for maga. /s
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Okay…first it is AI? Now its super Intelligence?!! Okay if i can find another planet i would gladly do so and rocket myself out of this planet and live in that other planet. No way in hell am I living in a built fantasy where bots run our country. im out smh 🤦♀️
Replying to @SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
“Ah, I see, so it’s one of those reversible designs!”
Super intelligence indeed!
Replying to @DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
Have you ever seen Trump drinking. It’s all a matter of perspective
Replying to @SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
AI is developing extremely quickly. In another 2-5 years, they’re going to invent a computer that can tell you to flip over a cup to drink from it.
Replying to @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
and it will tell you why there are 2 R’s in strawberry. We’re just too stupid to understand.
Replying to @SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
… But there are three…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
‘The most uneducated buffoon in history stands at a podium, bloated with self-importance, lips pursed like a carnival barker ready to sell turd milk to the unsuspecting. He grins a grotesque smirk stretched across his face as he scrawls his name onto a hollow decree, a sham celebration of the dismantling of knowledge itself. The Department of Education falls, not with a bang, but with wheezing verbs, suffocated under the weight of his own staggering ignorance. Surrounding him are the usual suspects: cowards in expensive suits, servile sycophants clapping like trained seals, and racist opportunistic ghouls picking clean the bones of democracy. Liars, fools, and thieves all parasites fattening themselves on the hardships of the many. They stand in rigid formation, dead-eyed and soulless, their allegiance sworn not to country, not to principle, but to power, and the dark, festering rot that clings to it. And there he is the convicted wrong, the living embodiment of septic tank spew, his voice a noxious fog of grift and grievance. He lectures the world on right and wrong, irony clawing at the walls, desperate to escape the grotesque theatre of his moral void. The stomach turns, the air curdles, and for a moment, history itself recoils watching, in horror, as the great American experiment teeters on the precipice, led by a man who couldn’t spell “precipice” if his life depended on it.’
Replying to @YragNitram1956@feddit.uk
This was too good of a read, do you write books? 😭
Replying to @hyperio@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Thank you. No, I do not write books but read many!
Replying to @YragNitram1956@feddit.uk
Could you share any recommendations with me?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
This guy actually thinks that the only thing holding us back from ASI is verbage…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
cool. literally noone cares. Thats the sad part
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Nice, now the US can’t lose the AI race against China because they’re developing another thing now — super intelligence…
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Why does the Onion publish articles in the Verge nowadays?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Bought and paid for.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m renaming AI to ‘virtual intelligence’
Replying to @GasMeterCrasher@lemmy.zip
I prefer to call it virtual insanity myself
Replying to @sonic_veemo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Pirating is ethical, spotify is not!
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Google and Apple soon to follow, I’m sure, like the good little lickspittles they are.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
I’m renaming trump to “worst president and dumbest motherfucker ever”
Replying to @HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
Well one of you has a good point the other an orange face.
Replying to @HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
his professor at wharton did a disservice by not failing him.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Has there ever been a headline that starts with “Trump says” and the rest of the sentence is just normal? Does he ever just do normal?
Replying to @echodot@feddit.uk
No. He’s a narcissist so his “juice” is fighting over what he said.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
From the man with a complete lack of intelligence.
Replying to @Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
A donkey has more intelligence than Don the Con.
Replying to @heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
Don Snoreleone
Replying to @Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
hes filled with russian bloatware.
Replying to @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
You mean Israeli?
Replying to @dovahking@lemmy.world
Por que no los dos
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Dumbass thinks a rebrand is going to help.
Replying to @Doomsider@lemmy.world
he would name it trumplandia, or trumpoline.
Replying to @Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Trumpbopaline!
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Why not rename tap water to “gazoline”?
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
Trump should keep going.
He should raname the Atlantic, the American Ocean…
Rename the moon Trump. Not Trumpworld, just Trump
Antarctica is now Cold America. We can’t expect Trump or MAGA to comprehend America Australis
Canada is now Canadian America even though it makes no sense. Greenland is now Green America even though it’s famously not Green at all, but glacial white.
I want to see if Google and Apple will still humor him, no matter how unhinged he gets. I want to see them shouting to the world how Trump is absolutely the best-dressed emperor in the world.
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I want to see if Google and Apple will still humor him, no matter how unhinged he gets.
They will, yes.
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Greenland’s is probably the only type of greening he gets behind
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Canada is now Canadian America even though it makes no sense.
It is the Canadian part of North America, so from that point of view it’s not technically wrong.
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Greenland is getting more green and Antarctica is getting less cold.
Replying to @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Tha arctic could be called “Trump ice”
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
The already bullshit concept of an “AI” super intelligence had a definition. This renaming is completely nonsensical and nullifies the original meaning.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
nottheonion is leaking again…
Replying to @TomAwsm@lemmy.world
well the orange is leaking, rotting onion smell.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
It’s still Gulf of Mexico, it’s still Lake Ontario, it’s still Department of Defense, and it’s still slop.
Replying to @DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
It’s always been the department of oligarchy.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
“Stable genius” would be more apt because the exponential benchmark growth period appears to be over and the term has an ironic meaning from Trump’s own usage that very much applies to LLMs.
Replying to @return2ozma@lemmy.world
yeah, i figure most westerners didn’t learn about what we did to both China and Japan from 1800 - 1930 (approximately). i learned it in elementary school, but i think “leadership” seriously dumbed things down since 1982.