Guillem Leon

You know you're in Spain when the menu button for your router's custom ISP-made web interface is a graphic labeled... meun.png. I did not misspell it. They did. Meun. I love my country sometimes

I would love not to be vibe coding an accessible way to interact with Toggl Plan right now. But the fact of the matter is that 1) Toggl Plan has directly expressed to me that accessibility is something they don't really plan to do anything about; 2) I need Toggl Plan for work and I'm tired of having to depend on colleagues to wrangle it for me; and 3) I genuinely cannot justify to myself spending hours on reading up on the API, command parsing, re-learning a subset of scripting that I really do not care about, all for a company who thinks of accessibility as a "feature request not currently on our roadmap".

@menelion I know, I find it kind of silly in the case of news. Especially because American English does have the sounds to make that happen. It would be a slightly different story if it were our prime minister, I'm pretty sure they'd say "Pay-droe San-chezz" in the UK, the US and every other anglophone country. @FreakyFwoof

@menelion For sure, hence what I said about it being totally valid to want people to pronounce things your way as long as you reciprocate. I used to think both Norwiches (Norwichs?) were pronounced the same until I was corrected, and now I try to remember which is which. Not that I ever have to talk about Norwich CT, no offense hahaha. But yeah, in the case of a random person they simply might not know or even consider it a possibility, and in the case of a news anchor who knows if they might even have been asked to pronounce it a certain way. @FreakyFwoof

@menelion I think it's partly a matter of dialectal variation, and partly that some places that have their names spelled the same aren't pronounced the same in actuality. To the former, maneuver vs manoeuvre is absolutely not due to a lack of education, and neither is an identical pronunciation of Tudor, tutor and tooter. How about pour vs paw, core vs caw? Why do the British say garage in such a "bastardized" way if it clearly comes from French, and Americans can do it much more correctly? After all, the -um pronunciation is just a lazy articulation of the full "-ham" ending, so even if it is the standard one in the UK, it's actually due to languages being naturally lazy and not due to some sort of better education. To the latter, I've had this conversation with Americans that will affirm that Birmingham in Alabama is pronounced with fully-articulated -ham, but might refer to Birmingham in the UK with the -um pronunciation. Same for Norwich in Connecticut, which is pronounced nor-witch. I think it's valid to want people to pronounce Birmingham in the UK with the -um ending, just as long as you're equally observant that Birmingham in Alabama is pronounced with final -ham and call it that. If you grew up in the US hearing Birming-ham and suddenly learn of a place in the UK spelled that way, you'd probably call it that. If you grew up in the UK hearing Birming-um you'd probably call the city in Alabama the same thing, and both would be equally """wrong""". @FreakyFwoof