It won’t be a problem on a de-googled phone. Get it running LineageOS or GrapheneOS. Then install F-Droid (and probably Aurora store too). Some Google junk won’t work, but you’ll soon be more limited by having Google services on your phone than not having it.

Hardly the point though. For us this is a bother at most, but we can cope because we’re already doing our own thing and know what we want. Imagine trying to get your non tech-savvy friends to “sideload” (install) an app from outside the Play Store. Right now it’s not a big deal, so if they’re interested in the app, they’ll likely install it. But this amount of friction and scary warnings is way more likely to stop them.

If one looks at the supported devices pages (which I do regularly hoping that it supports mine) it’s easy to see that 99% of devices on the market simply can’t use them.

Yeah, it’s been getting harder as time goes on. It’s basically only pixels that are supported and still on the shelf.

I recently learned that this setting actually persist after migrating to another phone.

that would be only if you chose to backup and restore your android settings

Which is perfect for them to keep tying your profile information across the board in yet another way. Fuck that.

Do you create a new Google account every time you change phones? They’re already tying everything to you

I have 1 Google account use specifically for spammy shit. That account is tied to a completely fictional person and lives inside 1 chromium browser.

My phones and computers have never seen a Google account other than inside the VM that runs that browser.

We don’t hear this enough. Google doesn’t hear this enough.

This is why rooting is great and if you re worried about banking apps, KernelSU is very good at blocking detection and keyboxs for the hardware attestation get leaked weekly.

This is why antitrust law is great… or would be, if we fucking had it anymore!

Technological workarounds are not the same thing as actual solutions.

I don’t have hope for a solution.

github.com/tiann/KernelSU

To help translate KernelSU, we no longer accept translation contributions via Weblate. All translations are now handled using LLMs.

what???

also, what do you do with the leaked keyboxes? does kernelsu handle them too, or do you use a different tool for that?

I use play integrity fix and tricky store. Everytime it is revoked, I change it to an unrevoked one. KernelSu hide the root and modules.

i hadnt thought about it before but i just had the realization that im not even gonna be able to have 3rd party apps AND my banking app in the same phone (cuz it doesnt like developer options being enabled). uhm shit

I unlocked my phone’s bootloader. I’m on the oem OS, up to date, no root, just unlocked the bootloader. Now my device is “not certified” and a lot of apps that have no business caring about my “certification status” don’t work (like my phone operator app). That’s if the playstore lets me download it in the first place: “this app is not compatible with your device”

Latest Android update will hide developer options supposedly from apps. However, it’s on Android 17

Worse - that 24 hour timer? You only have a short window of time once it finishes to continue, otherwise you have to wait another 24 hours.

This happened to me :(

Under the assumption this is a non negotiable thing…

They should at least let you alter the timer if you know you might not be able to

Like if in the post 24h window you know you’ll be busy, let you make it 28h instead of 24h

Also, no autoupdates!

The same procedure applies if you want to unlock the bootloader?

Edit: OK nvm it must be done to unlock the developer’s option