The MP3 era’s favorite player returns with a monthly subscription.

The sub-subtitle says enough that you should just look elsewhere.

The llama’s ass > Winamp

Winamp: It really IS the llama’s ass.

No, it won’t.

More like its corpse will be reanimated in an attempt to scam people using nostalgia. Wouldn’t be the first time this trick has been pulled, remember when LimeWire got resurrected to shill a scam cryptocoin?

Again. Anyone remember Shoutcast?

Anyway, the old versions of Winamp work just fine for playing your local library.

Nullsoft’s streaming server? I ran a web radio stream for a small group of friends for a short time using it. Pretty sure the only reason I ever became aware of it was Winamp’s built-in station browser. It made me wanna learn how it worked. I can’t remember anymore but I assume Shoutcast must’ve had a “publish” type option to make them show up in the list. That stream browser also introduced me to the demoscene (there was a website that broadcast various demos) and expanded my tastes in music across so many genres. RIP to Wazee and Digital Gunfire. At least SomaFM and Digitally Imported are still hanging on.

Do you remember RipCast? Before I learned where else to look, and when #mp3z on IRC failed me, I’d use it just to be able to save those unobtainable songs. Like a digital equivalent to leaving a cassette recording the radio in hopes of snagging a few songs you wanted to keep.

It still exists. I run radio 24/7 with Shoutcast.

It’s coming back with a monthly subscription.

All I want is a simple, nostalgic media player.

VLC or Foobar2k?

Personally, I’ve always stuck to VLC. Although Foobar2k’s built-in playlists and directory scanning makes for a nice lightweight iTunes.

qmmp is pretty close to what winamp was.

After the “open source” fakeout that was nothing more than them trying to get free work without actually opening the source code for anyone to use, Winamp and Llamasoft or whatever their name is can get bent by an elephant.

I won’t even use an old copy in Wine at this point. They fucked up repeatedly and now nostalgia isn’t what it used to be. Get fucked, losers of Winamp.

Im gonna guess you are on linux? Any recommendations in terms of music players?

I just use Rhythmbox, there might be something better but I haven’t needed to find it.

if you use audacious it can use old winamp skins

Didn’t they try to open source it only to nope out at the last second?

Not open source, their shit license didn’t even allow for forks or literally anyone else to build it.

they also released code with it that wasn’t even theirs to release in the first place…

the whole repo and its history were wiped off github a few months later.

Not before getting cloned dozens of times 🤣

I loved Winamp years ago. And I love nostalgia but not like this. I will just stick with my Navidrome instance and its tons of open source free clients.

Where are my fellow SoundJam MP users at? I still miss the Eclipse visualizer.

It’s coming back with a monthly subscription.

It’s dead already, then. WinAmp’s heritage was providing a free audio player. I was looking forward to a refreshed build to test out, but I won’t pay for it.

There are a dozen better, free, maintained, and actively developed players out there. This is less than too little, and far too late. Those of us who used winamp back when it was still activly developed will continue to have nostalgia for it, but I bet it will be DOA to most of the target audience.

I’ve only kept up on news for it because I was hoping it would be reborn true to itself. I have zero interest in it as a subscription model.

it appears to be just an added optional feature, a winamp-branded deezer subscription and client, with the traditional local play and customization and what-not still part of the ‘free’ program (presumably… details are scarce).

but… i left winamp years ago. i won’t go back. i have playlists sorted and can just use vlc these days. idc about customizing or visualizations and that shit. i just want a player to sit in the background and do its thing. there’s dozens of acceptable programs without a subscription sales pitch built in.

Unlike traditional digital streaming platforms, the new Winamp Player will not be limited to music streaming. It will seamlessly combine premium streaming with users’ local music libraries, internet radio stations, podcasts, personal cloud-based collections and other audio sources, while introducing a highly customizable interface, new social capabilities and innovative ways to discover, organize and enjoy music.

Source engadget.com/…/winamp-coming-back-2027-deezer-par…

It sounds like the local playback is the “optional” feature. That’s still gonna be a no, at least for me. Fpr Hifi, I’ll stick with FooBar2k, or something that is a proper hi-res FLAC player first and has bolt-ons/plugins second. The same article also links to another, they actually already released a new build of classic winamp a few years ago.

engadget.com/winamp-mp3-player-software-returns-1…

Yeah, I loved winamp back in the day, but it’s been a quarter of a century and now it’s primary purpose (the ability to play mp3’s) is no longer it’s primary purpose. If I’m looking for another music player, it’s primary purpose needs to be playing music files, not trying to convince me to sign up for another shitty service.

Okay, so yes, but do you have an example for linux? For I have checked out loads and not a single one can both do “next song” (only fast forward, facepalm), and random play the playlist/folder (with one doing it by scrambling the playlist itself smh).

I have a fruit named one thats does it but is a pita for everything else.

Lame. I really want a super powerful local music player. One that takes iTunes smart playlists to the next level. One that can sync to an equally powerful mobile app. There’s enough streaming, give it a rest.

They finally released a Mac version. Still doesn’t support m4a out of the box. Dragged it to the bin so fast.

I read the title in the voice of one of those crazy prophets

Remember when it was reborn to sell NFT?
WACUP for the win

Took me a while to find it but wacup is the one.

I’m still using the latest winamp, a new winamp would be great but I’m never paying a subscription for music.

Qobuz + jellyfin > winamp plus

Foobar2000 it is then

🏴‍☠️

Fuck Winamp then.

WINAMP! It really licks the llama’s ass!!

whips*

Hey man, don’t yuck his yum

insert Kash Patel joke here

foobar2000 and mpv wreck the everloving shit out of it already

AIMP for life. Sure, it stands on the shoulders of llamas, but it’s unbeatable. And it’s got a native Linux version now, too!

Unfortunately in today’s world, russian made software isn’t that trustworthy

i hope “under no circumstances should you Check new versions of Winamp at startup” option continues to work

Who needs it? Audacious + Winamp skin.

Winamp was great back then, but now anything respecting my folder sorting and supporting Milkdrop works for me.

I have the feeling the new version’s tagline will be something along the lines of

“WINAMP, IT REALLY SUCKS THE LLAMA’S CORPORATE COCK!”

Will be reborn? If they had actually released Winamp under a real open source licence, it would have been reborn years ago! A bit late for it now!

A few years ago someone bought and updated the old Winamp. Works with skins and no idea if visualizer support but I lost track of the project.

These owners are just whatever lawyers have gotten ahold of the WinAMP trademark.

Anybody remember when they attempted to push out the source code for WinAMP on GitHub and failed miserably? Or included NFTs?

“To take on streaming”

In a partnership with Deezer, Winamp will be reborn as a completely new player with its own premium subscription service, with Deezer providing the white-label streaming technology and licensed catalog.

So, basically a nostalgic skin for Deezer.

And Deezer is owned by a Russian Oligarch who was personally sanctioned by Ukraine for profiting off of the war.

This is not the Winamp you’re looking for.

owned by a Russian Oligarch

TIL

Yeah, pissed me off when another lemming informed me cos I had left Spotify for deezer because Spotify basically joined the evil big tech club.

Only one that doesn’t seemed to have evil ownership is qobuz… Which I have now, but I hate it.

I don’t hit the high seas myself, but sometimes it sounds like the only sane choice. ☠️

Damn I didn’t know that. I picked Deezer because they were the only music streaming service I could find not based in the USA and their Purple Heart logo is cool. Tho might as well go back to Apple Music which I know isn’t good morally either but at least it pairs perfectly with my iPhone

If you don’t have any morally “good options” then the only correct choice is one of personal conscience.

Anyone who says otherwise with out being a hypocrite is either Amish or living off grid in the Alaskan forest.

kodi has visualisations

sorry winamp

Loved Winamp. But over the years how many reborn announcements did it have?

WinAmp was already reborn as Wacup though?

Https://getwacup.com

Last time I heard about a Winamp reboot it was a Bandcamp ripoff with added cryptoslop. While this seems marginally better it’s still pretty disappointing.

Deezer seems alright as a streaming service, though, and they’re French so there’s that.

Wait. Didn’t it already get rebooted?

Bring back Sonique!!!

Again?

Someone already revived Winamp in the best way years ago with Winamp 2.0 in a browser, complete with all the skins they could salvage: webamp.org

Underappreciated work. Note that you can drag-n-drop your own music and listen it there!

Another subscription thing. Sad.

as a streaming service… That really sucks the llama’s ass.

It’s not like it already was shitty when version 3 was released

I still remember the hate for the new interface

Version 5 (“it’s so good, we skipped v4”) was even worse

“Know that mp3 player you love? Well what if it was also a really shitty video player?”

Stay in your lane: the media player

Winamp isn’t even good. There are much better media players. Use Strawberry.

VLC? Foobar2000? I liked winamp.

I liked Winamp too. It hasn’t aged well. I’m amazed people use VLC for music. I know you can, but there’s better software out there.

VLC works for everyhing, but it’s very ugly and clunky. I use mpv for videos and I haven’t really played music on my computer since the AmaroK days.

Haven’t heard of this one yet, they’ve got downloads for Linux, will have to try it out. Thanks!

It’s the best I’ve used. Hope you like it :)

Winamp will be reborn

No. No, it won’t.

Anyone else still use Foobar2000?

I just realized it doesn’t even need to be reborn to “take on streaming.” Y’all with home servers and a big music collection can just start hosting Shoutcasts again and we can use the OG Winamp to stream. :P

Why would I choose it over VLC?

Winamp’s got a certain “je ne sais quoi”, … style? Personality?

Because it really whips the llamas ass!

Let the dead stay dead.

For real, Winamp had a great run. Stop ruining it.

You’re bringing back everyone’s favourite free pirated mp3 player as a subscription service… why?

This does not whip the Llamas ass.

This is a whole enshitification process right there. After a few months Deezer will start removing content that you will have access to over the winamp subscription, or winamp will pull an Amazon and insert ads into the paid subscription, call it basic subscription, and ask for more money for premium without ads.

Fuck this, I’m fine with my navidrome.

Yo……ho……

Edit. Jokes aside I am with you. I still have my mp3s that I ripped from 20+ years ago. The best thing to do is go back to physical media.

I’ve been looking for a solid DAP for my car playing and afternoon walks, bit those things, at least the good ones, are super expensive. Still, better than paying for subscriptions though.

All while selling your personal data because you agreed to that when it was buried in that giant EULA/Privacy policy/etc. that you didn’t read

What? No, I read every single part of them…

Said no-one ever 🤣🤣

Lol yep.

Though lately I just give the URL to an AI to read and call out red flags. Sometimes there’s an email address buried in the legalese to opt out of data sharing (and the LLM can draft an email to copy-paste). Though, at that point, I’ve usually lost too much trust in the service and find alternatives.

I don’t understand the point of this. Strawberry Player exists. Shortwave exists. I miss the old Zune Player. Mais, c’est la vie, non?

It’s probably just nostalgia, but honestly it never hurts to have more choice.

We have too many companies that keep consolidating and leaving users with little or no alternative for products and or software.

Again?