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Trump Launched an America.[gov] “Super Intelligence” Chatbot and It Immediately Disagrees With Him on Huge Topics, Including Whether He Won the 2020 Election.
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Trump Launched an America.[gov] “Super Intelligence” Chatbot and It Immediately Disagrees With Him on Huge Topics, Including Whether He Won the 2020 Election.
futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/trump-ai-disagrees-electionReplying to @eicker@lemmy.world
This is why I’ll never believe the claim that AI will save humanity. It may well give the answers to “save us” but we already know the answer. We just don’t care. We’re not going to listen to AI if we don’t listen to ourselves.
Replying to @EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
It’s a language calculator. It has no intrinsic incentive to tell the truth, it just processes words.
There is no reason to trust AI’s reasoning on what could “save us” even if it offered one.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Right, its answer would be a distillation of what humans have written on the topic of how to save us.
Replying to @LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
what humans have written
a highly curated selection that panders to the views of the AI’s sponsors
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
We are not yet at the point LLM are so dependent on advertising and “partnerships” that they are totally biased in favor of specific brands… not yet…
Take a time to anticipate how the actual state will soon be regreted…
Replying to @peacepath@lemmy.world
Im just hoping that the LLMs that are trained to push views that are at odds with reality struggle with basic reasoning, making them inferior models to LLMs trained on a more diverse worldview. I hope.
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
My guess is we will see some less convenient models, that gives better result but a “weird” way ; and far more very convenient models, easy to use, but that generate advertisings as a result (maybe even with promo codes!)…
Remember how internet search have evolved, how youtube has became, how everything went when finance guys decided it was time for harvest…
Now look at this new field, see how they grow it… what are the odds their plan is to harvest it at some point?
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
I think the idea that “better training = better LLM’s” is AI industry marketing hype. It’s a pretty shoddy technology on a basic level. There are applications in computer science of LLM tech, but this chatbot shit has got to stop.
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
Panders to the pro-Trump views of tech billionaires? Strangely counterintuitive.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Thanks for proving my point :)
Replying to @EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I’m not sure if there is some subtext being lost, but if your point is that we should trust AI with how to ‘save us’, then why aren’t you following it right now? It’s perfectly happy to offer an answer and it will even sound very convincing. But there is no reason to think it actually has the correct answer, or even knows what the problem is.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
No, my point is that even if the AI was 100% correct and gave humanity the best advice to solve all of our problems, we still wouldn’t follow it. Because we don’t want to. We live in a society that’s broken on purpose, and a lot of people want to keep it that way, and have convinced a great many people to support things against humanity’s own interest.
Replying to @EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
If an AI was provably 100% correct then I guarantee you people would listen to it.
People seek for god & other higher powers for much less reasonable logic than “a machine that is always correct no matter what”.
The reality is AI as it’s known today (generative stochastic models) can not ever reach “100% correct”, by definition of being a generative stochastic model. So you’re essentially discussing a fantasy computer that we are not close to every having IRL -> It’s not relevant.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
If an AI was provably 100% correct then I guarantee you people would listen to it.
Intelligent people will believe the most obvious nonsense sometimes; engineers are represented among young-Earth creationists for example.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Disagree. The AI will say things like taxing the rich more or preserve nature etc. Society won’t listen to that, or more precisely won’t follow this advice, because the deciders do not like this idea.
Replying to @Prime@lemmy.sdf.org
Yeah and it’s not 100% correct. It makes mistakes and says incorrect things all the time - thus it shouldn’t be used to govern even if it happens to agree with you on some issues.
“The AI says the thing I like on the handful of buzzword issues I tested. Let’s hand it the keys to the entire world and let stuff get nutty”
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Some people will even argue with regular number calculators.
Replying to @NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Far apart from anything else it would just be regurgitating what somebody had already previously said and was previously ignored. Although I suppose maybe would have more weight coming from the “almighty AI”?
Replying to @EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
It could be functional and fine (and largely useless), but the issue is one of these toadies is going to make it malfunctional, and therein lies the problem.
Replying to @EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
The AI that they let us have will only know the information they have approved.
Replying to @postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
That’s not true. For less than $15k and a high electricity bill, you can train and run very powerful AI models yourself, today. And you have broad choices of which open weight model to run. And it’s easy to switch them out. No “they” in the mix at all
Replying to @SHY_TUCKER@lemmy.ml
99% of people do not have 15k to spend on AI
nor do they have extra money to pay high electricity bills NOR pay for good information feeds to feed the model
for now. “They” are just beginning the legislative process. In 20 years what will the landscape lookblike? What kinds of blocks, filters, gov reporting will be mandated?
Replying to @postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
If in 20 years time having a graphics card is illegal, y’all might as well go ahead and collectively commit sudoku as a nation.
Replying to @boonhet@lemmy.zip
Between phones, tablets, and data centers the age of mass market affordable PC parts is fading.
Hope it rebounds but idk.
Replying to @postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
You could always hire people to be your shipping agents and you could have your stuff sent from China to an EU country and then here. Pay the cheap china prices, pay the vat shipping from the EU country and then have it shipped to the US .
Then you pay off your people overseas every month like a subscription service fee.
Replying to @SHY_TUCKER@lemmy.ml
I’m keen on local models but prices are getting out of hand. I insured my workstation recently for more than twice what I built it for, because it’d cost that to rebuild it with identical parts.
Replying to @mobyduck648@lemmy.world
My graphics card, which I bought used, is now worth more than the entire rest of my computer was new. This is nuts!