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I don't like passkeys | Ethan Hawksley
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I don't like passkeys | Ethan Hawksley
hawksley.dev/blog/i-dont-like-passkeysReplying to @lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
I feel like there’s some potential in password-derived passkeys, which would get around the storage and hardware lock-in issues. It’d essentially be a master password like for BitWarden, but instead of needing an app to store a bunch of generated passwords, the master password could be all you need to authenticate.
Most of the sources of compromise for regular users would be eliminated because the password never leaves the client.
Replying to @Technus@lemmy.zip
So…re-using the same password for every service and site?
Grandma, that’s enough internet for today, OK?
Replying to @GreenShimada@lemmy.world
In the scheme I’m proposing, the password never gets sent to the server.
The issue of password reuse is the password getting sent to the site, because the prevailing approach is to hash the password server-side. Passwords leak because they get stored in plaintext, or hashed using outdated algorithms, or get logged with request metadata–bottom line, they end up stored somewhere that an attacker can get their grubby little paws on them, or in a way they can reasonably recover them.
Using a master password to derive a passkey client-side isn’t any different than using a master password to unlock a password manager. It just cuts out the middle step.
Replying to @Technus@lemmy.zip
It’s not a bad idea but that idea breaks as soon as you have to change the master password. You would have to change every one of those passkeys. Which could be annoying, if you have a lot of them.
Replying to @BiscuityCat@lemmy.world
You might like the current implementation of bitwarden passkeys. You have the master password to unlock your vault of passwords and passkeys as per usual, but then the webpages connect with the extension to authenticate via passkey, so there’s no weak link where the password is sent, but changing the master password doesn’t affect all your other passkeys afaik.