Destroying Linux how exactly?

Don’t you know that LLM is pure evil and everyone who uses it becomes an idiot? At least that is what those anti-LLM fanatics preaching.

Yes of cource. Even if a troll you got it completely right dude.

There was a time when no improvements to the kernel required AI.

May I suggest you ignore the troll and answer the person who asked the question. I’d like to know as well, I’m fairly clueless about this stuff and trying to get a better understanding, other than “slop” level answers.

codeberg.org/ethical-foss/…/why_not_llms.md

The question was what exactly is Linus doing to destroy Linux? I’ve heard the usual arguments against LLMs and I don’t disagree with those, but I’m looking to find out what Linus is doing that is ruining everything?

Says the pro-AI fanatic…

We need distinguish between master programmers who can evaluate AI-generated code and submit it for proper review, and first year interns being told to add 45 features to Friday’s update.

Good thing that pipeline of people isn’t under existential threat. If we get rid of all the interns, problem solved. AI can do that! /s

The mindset of programming is completly different than rubber stamping/tweaking slop… don’t know where they are going to get real developers in 20 years.

I look at it like COBOL coding. In 20 years they can call me out of retirement and pay me a boatload to maintain the garbage mess that is all that’s left.

Is there any amount of money that can unfuck a codebase after 20 years of rot?

At that point it would just be “keep it alive until the replacement is ready”

No, but they don’t know that yet.

Also people act like only AI code is bad quality and full of bugs. I’ve seen enough legacy codebases, and my own side projects, to know that AI does not have a monopoly on slop. We humans are perfectly capable of that ourselves. It’s the code review process that prevents that being merged, AI or not

Yes but at least I understood my slop when I wrote it.

That’s fine for you but what about others working on the same codebase?

You’re not qualified for that statement

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Assoc-Array

Great. I guess I’ll stay on pre-ai version for as long as possible…

Curious why this is so downvoted? Is it not a reliable report? Are people just confused and down voting news they don’t like? For news posts downvotes work best to help prevent us from clicking into garbage low quality news links that waste our time. This is something I don’t like but want to know about!

Maybe OP’s opinion is what’s being downvoted?

Ah, that’s a good point. Pretty controversial quip there.

Torvalds has one of the best takes on AI so far. It’s a useful tool for experienced programmers, that takes care of a lot of the tedious tasks that humans are just not geared for.

Lets imagine for a second, what programming will be like in 2030. Tell me, do you think there will be less AI assisted code, or more, than there is now?

And let me ask this: will traditional programming be useless in 2030?

If the answers are, more and yes, then I understand why one can claim that Torvalds is destroying linux. Otherwise, it’s foolish.

Lets imagine for a second, what programming will be like in 2030. Tell me, do you think there will be less AI assisted code, or more, than there is now?

IMHO it vastly depends on the evolution of AI. If they will gain the ability to understand the context they are in then probably there will be more, else it would still be usefull only to automate simple and repetitive things.

Of all things to be tainted by AI, Linux was the one I wanted it to happen to least. He should have just handed it over if he cannot be bothered any more.

I can’t tell if sarcasm or stupid

meh, it's his toy/joke project, he can break it if he likes.
If you don't like it, then Fork it.

If there’s one person in the world I trust to call out AI for being stupid, it’s Linus Torvalds. I think he can handle it.