Lol I love the lopsidedness of it all though.

Stalin allies with the Nazis and agrees to split Poland kicking off the whole shebang. Gets betrayed and goes scorched earth.

The west didn’t ask for war, avoided it, then blamed for not going scorched earth

Patton was right, we shouldn’t have stopped at the Elbe and should have went into Russia and torn down the USSR. The remnants is what’s attacking Ukraine…with Putin suggesting the USSR collapse was the worst geopolitical disaster of the century. Russia needed to be split up.

If the US would have been able to they would like the barbarians they are. The US barely fought in WW2 to begin with. They just swept in to take over half of Europe after the USSR defeated the Nazis at Stalingrad and the Nazis were already being pushed back.

Lol more ml bullshit. The US didn’t barely fight in the war lol

June 1941 is when the USSR flipped sides from splitting Europe with the Nazis to joining the allies. The US was already supplying material to the UK before that, and got attacked in Dec of 41. The US took on the Japanese basically by themselves, Australia would have fallen without our help. We also were the reason that the USSR survived with the lend lease program. You tankies are fucking hilarious though, try and change history to make the USSR the good guys who defeated the nazis all by themselves.

I forgot how they fought in Africa against Rommel, and in Italy and on the beaches of Normandy…and the Japanese in the Philippines…lol they fought on their own land and ended up taking over countries and west Germany… basically did what they agreed to do with the Nazis in the first place.

Don’t bother replying with your bullshit made up history, no one but you lot believe that shit.

The US ground invasion started after the Soviets won the war against Nazi Germany and the Soviets were on a push to take over all of Europe. The US swooped in from the back and claimed half the spoils of war while contributing far less.

Lend Lease was great for the US as well they could give weapons to others and have their troops die while no American troop was in danger. Sure it was a positive thing but the US didn’t do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

30 million Soviets died in WW2. Less than half a million Americans. The US contribution was nowhere near the Soviets.

Goddamn you dumbasses will huff the fuck out of your bullshit won’t you.

Soviets didn’t make it back to Poland until 44 and the US had been well into the war and fighting in Europe and Pacific theater for years.

The Soviets also lost so many because they just threw bodies at the nazis. Same shit they’re doing in Ukraine.

How many people died makes no difference on how they helped in defeating the nazis, they sided with for 2 years hoping to split up Europe with them.

Also way to leave off the final bit of the quote

"although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.”

Truman saw that the USSR was just as bad as nazi Germany…but it doesn’t fit your propaganda so…keep on with that russian shill bullshit.

Can you fit in a few more insults in between your NATO propaganda?

You’re pathetic.

I’m gonna pay this again so you can actually read it this time to make sense of why Stalin was a warmongering fuck.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

Stalin saved europe from the Nazis.

Gluck Gluck.

Would you rather they have won? Why do you equate stating historical fact as “sucking dick”? Are you homophobic?

Western Europe literally joined the Nazis. Stalin merely had a truce with them.

You also ignored all the Western truces with Hitler including by Britain.

Hahahaha no it wasn’t.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

And for added lols; en.wikipedia.org/…/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD

They had more than a truce. They had a full alliance. They planned together and the soviets completely engaged in aiding Germany with it’s assault.

It’s also likely Hitler betrayed the Russians and did what he had done because he was on fucking meth. A more level headed leader probably would’ve played the relationship different and work alongside the soviets even longer.

So to reiterate, they formed a full on alliance and focused on the cultural destruction of the Polish people. And it took Hitler on meth to betray the Russians for them to drop the relationship.

And how am I ignoring anything? It’s well known in history how the west aimed to appease Hitler and failed because it was understood how aggressive he was aiming to be and they didn’t want a second great war. It has nothing to do with the relationship between Hitler and Stalin. You’re just trying to smear blame and pull some whataboutism crap. It won’t fly.

Did Stalin offer the West to fight Hitler with him before that truce and was ignored yes or no?

Damn y’all don’t read.

Go reread that last link. Soviet Russia had already begun a covert operation against Poland. Here’s the appropriate timeline.

1937 - Stalin kills about 100,000 Polish folk living in Russia at the time. This is called the NKVD Polish Operation.

1939(April) - Stalin signals alliance with Britain and France.

1939(August) - Stalin makes his alliance with Hitler.

You people try so hard to defend this man and just don’t know history. They didn’t wanna align with Stalin because his interest wasn’t in fighting Germany or stopping Nazis. It was control and power. He wanted an excuse to push troops into Poland under the guise of fighting the growing German threat and when that didn’t instantly form, he abandoned it and went straight to the Nazis.

Stalin had no interest in avoiding war. He outright went looking for it and tried to place himself in the best position for it. His own actions of murder and deceit is why nobody wanted to work with him.

So no. He did not offer a truce to fight Hitler. He killed 100,000 polish people and then scrambled and panicked that he’d be on the wrong side of the guns when war was going to inevitably break out. Not only did he directly aim to destroy Poland exactly like Germany but he ended up working with them to do exactly that.

Smh trying to frame shit to defend your daddy. Absolutely ridiculous

Anything’s possible when you make shit up

Go swallow more of Stalin’s cock idiot.

The only factual thing here is that the red army entered formerly polish borders.

And as for evil ass polish operation nkvd it’s kinda like white genocide in south africa :v It even has it’s own Alex Jones like figure. Also what I think it’s really interesting here is that these nazi fucks gobbling taxes at the ipn couldn’t be bothered to even sum their gorillions eaten by stalin with the giant spoon correctly

check for yourself if you don’t believe me

And honestly I think it’s really fucking insulting to all the polish people killed by nazis to try to diminish their plight and sacrifice by inventing an atrocity. Polish nationalists do so since they hate polish people, you don’t care about poland so fuck off with that. Sincerely, a pole

Lol fuck you larper. I don’t care who or what the hell you are. History is history.

Last post 4 weeks ago. Then you suddenly fly into my comment down this chain and cry crocodile tears trying to represent people who lost their lives?

Yeah fuck off bozo

History is history, that’s why you get so fucking butt hurt when we teach you about it.

Last post 4 weeks ago. Then you suddenly fly into my comment

You judge person by how terminally online they are yet concept of “lurking” escapes you. Not to mention “real life”.

History is history.

What happened to history is written by the victors and other liberal catchphrases that try to frame pop history as actual history?

I assume you’re from usa, so an example of you believing word for word in narration of the polish state would be me believing word for word that at the blair mountain national guard defended the usa against UMWA and their bandits. Or more modern example would be iraq and their wmds. History is history after all…

The west didn’t ask for war

Who the fuck do you think Germany is lmfao?

Weird way to describe yourself as a moron

I hope you’re pretending to be stupid as fuck for a troll otherwise you need to let your parents know you’ve been shit posting on the internet again, lol.

“after hitler our turn” was bad

get mad

mad because bad

Typical tankies,pro-Russian propagandists. All my comments get deleted. These propagandists mix truths with false information to make it easier to spread their propaganda

Now you whine about it here.

This is how you defend your claim. I share this to raise awareness; the more people see lemmy.ml abuse, the better for public awareness.

Typical tankies,pro-Russian propagandists

Yes because you start off all your comments with insults and bring no arguments.

Thank you for proving my point again.

Where did I insult? do not lie and show the proof. I bring the argument but people like you deny,because it doesnt serve your agenda.

Are you saying you didn’t call people Russian propagandists and tankies before you got banned?

Yes I said, but this is not insulting! The is definition of what happening.

Oh my bad I didn’t realize yelling at every user they’re paid Russian propagandists is actually an insightful debate argument.

They’re right, dumbass