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Mainstream News Anchors Now Talking About the AI Bubble Bursting at Any Moment: "I think the entire AI boom is investing in the wrong future."
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Mainstream News Anchors Now Talking About the AI Bubble Bursting at Any Moment: "I think the entire AI boom is investing in the wrong future."
futurism.com/future-society/mainstream-news-anchors-bloomberg-tv-ai-bubble-burstingReplying to @eicker@lemmy.world
The funniest part is that the thing that could actually make AI useful at scale might be what wrecks the investment thesis: cheap, local, open weight models. Wall Street funded a trillion dollar server farm to discover that sometimes the answer is a smaller model running on your laptop. The technology might win while the investors lose. Nevertheless, companies such as Google, Amazon, and Microsoft – as well as Nvidia and AMD – are a very long way from simply going under.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Google, Amazon and Microsoft will be fine.
Oracle, though. It’s possible they’ll actually die. And wouldn’t that be tragic.
I think NVIDIA has a higher chance of survival because they’re the ones actually producing something tangible (GPUs) that is still needed even if openweight models prevail.
Replying to @scytale@piefed.zip
they’re doing far more than just that, the way jensen has been able to structure all almost all of these deals essentially offloading all the risk. they sell essentially lease the hardware, ontop of huge chunk of premium up front, ontop of paying for compute itself, ontop of offloading any actual buildout cost onto any greedy schmuck willimg to pay the tab. nvda will be completely fine (though stock price will obviously correct as bubble-levels income drops)
Replying to @scytale@piefed.zip
shovels, gold, etc
Replying to @scytale@piefed.zip
At the same time, they are doing extreme price gouging with little improvement between generations since h200. Huawei actually has better $/performance ratio and accelerating faster. Others have better inference solution, with AMD doing better on $/training performance too. The fact that Nvidia is the one propping up the AI bubble, sinking their cashflow into dead ends, makes it a bad stock too. Peak NVidia BS got exposed in an Australian IPO this week. It was too absurd to get anyone to buy and got cancelled. Heavily backed by NVidia.
Replying to @scytale@piefed.zip
Yeah, they’ll be fine assuming there isn’t an Enron level legal motion. They are sort of not on the hook for anything financially. I’m not sure how legal it all is though. I’m pretty sure it isn’t, but even if it isn’t it’s still a question if they’ll be held accountable.
Replying to @zurohki@aussie.zone
And whoever scavenges their corpse will milk their customers prisoners even harder!
Replying to @zurohki@aussie.zone
I doubt it. Government would step in and bail them out.
Replying to @demonsword@lemmy.world
yep, with our money.
Replying to @demonsword@lemmy.world
This isn’t going to happen. They’re not the banks, and they’re pretty universally hated in the country.
Replying to @moustachio@lemmy.world
But their owners didn’t kiss the ring for nothing.
Replying to @moustachio@lemmy.world
When the AI bubble pops it’s going to take down the banks.
There is a lot of private credit dollars loaned to data centers and the banks are heavily invested in private credit.
It’s a house of cards priced for perfection just waiting for one of the big 5 to have a slightly off quarter.
Replying to @zurohki@aussie.zone
I would comment about Oracle, but I don’t want legal bills.
Replying to @Infinite@lemmy.zip
Fuck 'em with a rusty rake
Replying to @zurohki@aussie.zone
they wont be fine, they will suffer heavy lossess but will survive, likely just by laying off hordes tech people, and even downsizing thier warehouses. i think nvidia will get off mostly less harmed though, since they sold thier products years ahead.
Replying to @zurohki@aussie.zone
Oracle, though. It’s possible they’ll actually die. And wouldn’t that be tragic.
Oh the humanity