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“Has No Friends”: Amazon Is Keeping Amazingly Detailed Records on Its Customers and They Are Downright Insulting: Here's how to check yours.
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“Has No Friends”: Amazon Is Keeping Amazingly Detailed Records on Its Customers and They Are Downright Insulting: Here's how to check yours.
futurism.com/future-society/amazon-detailed-records-customers-insultingReplying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Amazon has spent years turning customer surveillance into a business model, and now we discover it apparently keeps detailed records while insulting the very people funding its empire. Nothing says customer obsession quite like treating customers as data mines and punchlines. Bezos built a trillion dollar machine that knows your shopping habits but apparently never learned basic respect.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
People discovering their apps watch them.
Amazon is definitely going to plug that hole.
Replying to @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
I wonder if they already did… my account has no such link.
Replying to @zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world
There’s the ticket… thank you!
Replying to @echo@lemmy.today
Yeah they have removed it - between when I looked at it on my phone this morning while procrastinating about getting out of bed and now it has been removed from the UK website - the below link still works (modified to .uk)
Replying to @thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
Yeah… I think the link is still sanitized and not what everyone else was seeing…
Replying to @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Either that or they "haven’t collected any data on me yet… "
Replying to @brucethemoose@lemmy.world
It’s not a hole they see it as a service. You can even give feedback on their notes about you.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I was hoping to find some saucy info on myself, but instead I got things like “prefers premium coffee brands with consistent flavor profiles” and “likely has a workshop”
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
I was impressed by how many categories I made about cheese.
Replying to @atx_aquarian@lemmy.world
It thinks I really, really like Japanese curry.
And it’s goddamn right.
Mine was pretty bland too. “Has 1 cat” and “reads fantasy”. I wanted to get insulted.
Replying to @Meatwagon@piefed.blahaj.zone
Yeah mine was super bland too which surprised me given I’ve bought stuff off them for 15 years or so. Really only references last couple of years.
I’m sus that they may have closed the exposure that is being reported
Replying to @Meatwagon@piefed.blahaj.zone
I’m sure the devs did a quick search for sexual keywords to clean it up after the news came out
Replying to @terranoid@lemmy.cafe
That’s a disservice to all of us 😆
Replying to @Meatwagon@piefed.blahaj.zone
Dude, there are so many places online you can get free insults from, I mean you are already here so why not post about the Ukraine war on lemmy.ml or mistake Star Trek for Star Wars or something.
Replying to @FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de
mistake Star Trek for Star Wars or something.
One’s got space magicians and the others got space wizards
Replying to @AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
This is funny.
As an avid fan of both, I’m not sure which is supposed to be which. Star Trek has all the pazzaz of a magician, psuedo science and technobable explainations. But it also has characters who are literally magical. Meanwhile, Star Wars has old people in secret societies performing rituals in robes - all very wizardly. However, in universe, their “magic” is very well understood, continuously studied, is testable, and even reproducable. They use their well established abilities to trick people, and that’s very magician.
Replying to @DaleGribble88@programming.dev
Yes.
Yes!
Replying to @AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
mistake Star Trek for Star Wars
I’m all about Stargate 😉
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
Is that the one with the gates deep in space? Deep gate 9 or something?
Replying to @AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
Your rage-baiting skills are impeccable 😆
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
Look, they found a way to connect to faraway regions of space and shortcut the journey, and decided a facility was necessary to protect against hostile intrusions and be a hub. Also something about returning control to the natives. Religion / religious zealots bad.
Replying to @FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de
mistake Star Trek for Star Wars
There is a difference?
waits for the incoming storm
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
I think my favorite was “Systematically building electronics component inventory”, but pretty much the same, mostly just my brand preferences and the stuff I tend to buy.
I’m also really deliberate in how I shop Amazon though: sift through my options in a private window and once I narrow down to what I want, copy the link, remove the tracking garbage, open it in my regular window, add it to my cart, rinse and repeat. It’s probably a paper shield at best, but good to know it helps curb the “[spends an inordinate amount of time comparing items, two thirds of which are also available on Ali Express]” inference.
Replying to @AliasVortex@lemmy.world
Systematically building electronics component inventory
Possible goal: self-hosting, possibly webshop. Possible future competition.
Concussion: nip in the bud.
Action: sending black ops team…
concussion indeed
Replying to @fifi@piefed.zip
Dammit. My AI needs work.
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
Maybe I’m just too honest with Alexa…
Replying to @wuffah@lemmy.world
might wanna get checked for lactose intolerance then
Replying to @wuffah@lemmy.world
Congrats on the sweet new mood lighting for your farts
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
It was a boring dud for me, just that I prefer grey ELEGOO filament for my 3D printer.
I don’t buy much on Amazon, but it should be more than just filament. No notes about headphone choice or random one-of items I have bought?
Replying to @TAG@lemmy.world
I’ve bought sooo many sex toys on Amazon, they definitely didn’t engage with that part of my uhhh “legacy.”
Replying to @TAG@lemmy.world
It has to be looking for trends, rather than one-offs, otherwise the list would be endless for some of us.
The one I find interesting is “prefers premium shampoo brands”. My first thought was: what? But I buy “salon size” so I don’t have to buy frequently, and my kids apparently like nice stuff, so technically true but may not mean what they think it does
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
I got “watches diverse films extensively”
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
I’m a professional carpenter. I buy a fair amount of tools on Amazon. But I don’t have a home workshop, I just use this stuff at work. I live in a tiny apartment haha. I just think it’s funny that amazon thinks this is all a hobby for me.
Replying to @paranoid@lemmy.world
I mostly use Amazon to order stuff my tech-illiterate dad wants so everything it thinks about me is wrong.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Here’s how to check yours.
Look inside.
Article does not contain instructions on how to check yours.
Replying to @OwOarchist@pawb.social
If you’re curious what kind of haphazard observations Amazon is keeping on you, you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link under the Account & Lists drop down menu. Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it. On mobile, you click on the profile account icon on the bottom bar, hit “Account,” then “Shopping preferences,” and then “About you.”
It doesn’t tell you. You have to read the words.
Replying to @ch00f@lemmy.world
My account has no such link…
Replying to @echo@lemmy.today
It’s not available in every country
Replying to @freudian_slop@programming.dev
/u/zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world posted the link and that works.
Replying to @ch00f@lemmy.world
No indication where this “Account & Lists” drop down is.
Replying to @OwOarchist@pawb.social
It does
If you’re curious what kind of haphazard observations Amazon is keeping on you, you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link under the Account & Lists drop down menu. Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it. On mobile, you click on the profile account icon on the bottom bar, hit “Account,” then “Shopping preferences,” and then “About you.”
Replying to @OwOarchist@pawb.social
It’s sort of buried in the middle:
If you’re curious what kind of haphazard observations Amazon is keeping on you, you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link under the Account & Lists drop down menu. Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it. On mobile, you click on the profile account icon on the bottom bar, hit “Account,” then “Shopping preferences,” and then “About you.”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
The “manage your information” section doesn’t exist where I’m at.
(Yes, I did a text search)
Instead, we have “request your data” which likely would give you complete files of all data they have on you. I’m not going to crawl through that right now.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
I found the "About You" link at the top of the "Ordering and shopping preferences" section.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
Yeah, I’m not seeing the exact link either as described in the article.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
That is all that I’m finding, too… I wonder if they already ‘fixed’ it.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
I selected the request to get advertisement related. Theb they sent a freaking email with a confirmation link. I decided to go through.
After selecting that, they say, “it should be completed in a month, but it can take more time because of high request volumes.”
Yeah a database query is going to take a month.
Replying to @sorter_plainview@lemmy.today
I’ve done data requests to Google to get all my YouTube and Google photos data in the past. Both took less than a few days, despite the latter covering over 100GB of data.
The former I did so I could get all my subscriptions into a third party client, the latter was so I could easily get all my photos with their metadata into an alternative hosting platform. These data request tools can be useful.
Replying to @sorter_plainview@lemmy.today
It took reddit a month (to the day IIRC) to send me my data as well (like everything I’d ever written on the site) when I requested all my info just before I left. Must be some law that says a month in it somewhere.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
Even though I’m on desktop, I had to follow the article’s mobile directions to find the relevant page. Here is a direct link that may work.
Replying to @zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world
“useAiMode=1”? Really?
Replying to @moopet@sh.itjust.works
It’s what triggers the page the article’s about. Take it off and you get a totally different page.
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
I was able to find it by following the mobile app instructions. Mine was pretty boring. It had stuff like “Likely lives in (city where I ship my orders)” and “Likely favors (brand of thing that I’ve bought multiple times)”. I guess the most invasive thing is that it guessed I live alone, or rather that I “likely has one adult.”
Replying to @Armand1@lemmy.world
Look for “About me”
Replying to @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Oh that’s it. I did not see it as described in original article.
Mine shows nothing wildly wrong or insulting(which I was hoping to see). It knows I grill, fix household stuff, (“Systematically maintains homes systems”) thinks I have a singular child (I have many), that I am “invested in the Apple ecosystem), what brand of car I drive and that I have a GE stovetop. Alll things I have bought items for off Amazon.
Honestly I expected to see a lot more.
Replying to @VinegarChunks@lemmus.org
I got “watches diverse films extensively”, which I’m not upset about haha
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
One of the items on my profile is "Probably lives in [my city], [my state]". They have my shipping address, shouldn't they be a bit more confident about it?
Replying to @Davel23@fedia.io
Amusingly mine had probably lives at [previous suburb] and an item for relocation stuff but they should know my current address…they ship to it regularly
Replying to @Davel23@fedia.io
They were wrong about me on that one, though it is a place I’ve shipped a good deal to.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
It also claimed someone kept a “seasonal rotation of decorative goose outfits,”
Now I’m interested
That reminds me that I need to get some new seasonal outfits for MY decorative goose…
This whole thread is just astroturfing for big seasonal goose and you fell right into their trap!
Replying to @MrQuallzin@pie.eyeofthestorm.place
And here I was looking to dress my goose in decorative outfits…
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Seems to be a US-thing. I see the preferences, but they’re all empty.
Replying to @red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Same for me.
Replying to @red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com
So the question is, is the data not collected on you, or is it not presented to you?
The second interpretation seems more likely given the context.
Replying to @NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
It might depend on which country you're in as to what they're allowed to actually collect. Personally I suspect that they'd have built a profile on me, but they just haven't rolled this out to Australia yet.
Replying to @NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
Since we can still request data
Its definitely the latter
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
The moment that Amazon not only blocked my account from ordering after some payment hiccups, but also that of my girlfriend, who was living at a different place at the time, was the moment I disabled my Amazon account completely.
I at the time also had a look into what I could find in the settings about what they still stored about me:
They still had my detailed order history dating back to 1996, when I first used the service to buy books, giving a nice, very personal overview about what topics I had been interested in over the decades.
This has been in 2011 already, so unfortunately nothing new.
None of those options are available for me on iOS. So, no idea what website she was going to.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
According to the screenshots, there should be an “About You” button at the bottom of this page, but personally I don’t see it (I’m in the EU). www.amazon.it/slc/hub
Replying to @bruce965@lemmy.ml
Mine has “Manage your information” in a very small font below the large About You, if you click on it you go to the correct page
If that doesn’t work try this (amend link to appropriate domain if needed)
Replying to @thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
There is absolutely nothing (amazon.de). I am pretty anal about privacy settings so I do regularly go through them for a check up to make sure they don’t have anything of this sort. Good job, Pringles of the past!
Replying to @Pringles@sopuli.xyz
Please teach me your ways oh wise one.
Replying to @thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
Thanks for the link. No, I guess it’s hidden for me. I also tried disabling all privacy extensions, but no. Perhaps I had toggled something off in the past.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Looking through the info they have on me, it seems entirely made up of information regarding past purchases and shipping locations. It mentioned having 2 people at my address, but said other person has an account linked to mine and with the same shipping address, so it’s all relatively shallow information. I didn’t see any deep dive “HOW DID THEY GET THAT??” stuff that would otherwise be alarming.
Edit: I should add that I don’t own or use any of their Alexa products or any related technology. Those might spy on people a little more thoroughly.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine just says I might like brands I’ve bought repeatedly and might own items I’ve bought accessories for.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine seems to think I’m super serious about indoor gardening <shrug>
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
This definitely seems to be US-based at the moment. The relevant page doesn't exist on the Australian site, but if I log into the Amazon US site, it is there (albeit blank in my case, which is interesting).
Replying to @Australis13@fedia.io
Same in France
Replying to @Australis13@fedia.io
It’s in the UK version. On iPhone: You --> Account (along the top) --> Your Shopping preferences (under Personalization) --> About You (at the bottom).
Replying to @allywilson@lemmy.ml
It says that I have an 11-year old child. Unless you count household pets, there ain’t no such thing.
Also, it knows about two out of eight RAM sticks that I bought from Ebay. It mentions other AI assistants learned about me, and asked if I wanted to share. I think assistants from other websites are already sharing.
…ah. I used someone else’s PC and account to ask Google questions about my computer build. My personal Amazon account is under the Prime account of that person.
Replying to @allywilson@lemmy.ml
About You (at the bottom).
Now we know how you like it
Replying to @allywilson@lemmy.ml
I live in the UK and used the UK web version, it has nothing. Maybe because I have almost entirely stopped using Amazon?
Replying to @HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
The UK web version definitely doesn’t have any such link for me.
Replying to @moopet@sh.itjust.works
It was pretty accurate about my interests which I saw no problem with (“prefers reliable open source ecosystems”), but took issue with it guessing the size of my family, so I updated it to say that I live in an underground bunker with 10 others in a polycule.
I also updated my halloween decoration preferences to suggest I fight crime at night
Can’t wait to see what my next searches are like 👀
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
There’s no “account settings” in the “your account” page. There’s no “see all”, and there’s also no “shopping preferences”. I assume you’re being served a different page to me.
Replying to @tetris11@feddit.uk
that one worked thanks :)
Replying to @moopet@sh.itjust.works
I found it on the UK web version but I had to use the browser’s search function to find it on the page.
It had nothing, which I’m hoping because I’ve previously opted out of analytics?
Replying to @skisnow@lemmy.ca
I used the search (the ctrl-f search) and found nothing
Replying to @moopet@sh.itjust.works
Either they’re A/B testing, or you’re on the wrong page
Replying to @allywilson@lemmy.ml
I can‘t find any of that in the German/EU version. Instead I can select interests if I want to. I‘m going to assume they don‘t have any of that heavy profiling here.
Replying to @allywilson@lemmy.ml
For me, it was directly under account, there was an about you tab a few options below shopping preferences.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
My first item “uses Linux”… But does it know I use arch btw?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
ITT: lemmy the billionaire hating hard working communists check their billionaire money giving app for a bit of cheeky fun based on all the money they’ve given them
Replying to @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
Replying to @NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
sure buddy, enjoy your starbucks
Seems to be an american thing. Sadge. :(
Replying to @realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
Europ people are not in the same wagon.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Ain’t got shit on me. 😤
Replying to @Kolanaki@pawb.social
Lol, everyone suddenly wants to get roasted by amazon
Replying to @Kolanaki@pawb.social
Same. I was hoping for some GlaDOS burns!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
And her reaction, posting under her full name btw, is “Haha they’re right”?
Some people deserve to have their identities stolen…
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I looked and it said I’m a photographer and likely to buy board games.
Fuckin’ nailed it.
Replying to @tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Amazon has no idea about my board game addiction because I don’t typically buy games on Amazon. They have a reputation for selling low quality bootlegs as legit. Besides, I can often find a better price on comparison shopping sites like www.boardgameoracle.com or boardgameprices.com
Replying to @TAG@lemmy.world
I usually buy my stuff in person.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
am I the only person who doesn’t have an amazon account
Replying to @chunes@lemmy.world
Just about.
Replying to @chunes@lemmy.world
i dont realky have other options for ecommerce
Replying to @protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone
That’s the hardest part of quitting. Looking for simple shit the top 10 search results are usually all Amazon. And after that the next 30 results are equally bad retailers. IDK how awful eBay is but that’s where I often buy things from, and even then the product probably came from Amazon anyway.
Replying to @BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
ebay is effectively unusable where I live, 0 local adoption, which means everyrhing is shipped overseas, which means crazy fucking shipping fees
Replying to @BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
ebay is filled with people that care about their reputation score, and alot are doing amazon or walmart or wherever dropshipping triage. Basically using gimmicks and other loopholes to sell from one place on ebay as their own and just fill in the address of the ebay shopper. The shops dont want to deal with returns so they will usually find the best items with the best price with the lowest return rates and have impeccable service.
i did this for a few months and made some money, i just hated dealing with customers and the margins some of these guys work on i think they were compiling it with CC points or some other compounding offer.
I still like ebay just pay attention to reputation and make sure you click free returns in the search
Replying to @chunes@lemmy.world
Oh, everyone look how cool and unique this guy is!
Replying to @chunes@lemmy.world
Nope, never wanted to support them. The other 2 in my house? Constant deliveries
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I didn’t see any summary. I just saw likes and dislikes. I share the account with my father. So it’s kind of funny to see the likes and dislikes, because we are very different people.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I’m shocked that Amazon or any business would guess what I like based off my shipping history. SHOCKED!!!
Edit: holy shit I gave this garbage a scan and bit I’m happy I did.
‘It contained, to her horror, a “page of assumptions that Amazon has made about me based on my purchases and I’m literally speechless.”’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a moron subject for a nerds first horror story 🤣
Nerds not liking accurate descriptions of their lives 🤣.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Thanks for posting this, prompted me to log in and delete my account
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Deleted my amazon account 2 years ago…
Replying to @Lanske@lemmy.world
Ok
Replying to @Lanske@lemmy.world
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I use one-off email addresses for each company, and I use Firefox with containers so even if they get passed Firefox and high tracking they will only ever see other Amazon page hits.
I have about 50 items on mime, all based on my shopping and browsing history. No problems here
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine only had that I like women’s fashion. Update: we haven’t saved anything of you yet.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
It’s not insulting. It’s just the first time you see the truth.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
How did they know I like anime and tech? Couldn’t have been all the body pillows and hardware?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Why are they almost all dated yesterday though? It isn’t from anything I did or changed.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I like knowing how little Amazon actually knows about me. It’s a relief to see.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
These are pulled from the item descriptions. OP probably bought something ‘for flat butts’ and boom it goes in their preferences.
Mine is literally just all things I bought from amazon. So yeah.
It thinks I’m married with two kids, because well, I buy lots of toys and things for women for the holidays… well yeah because I have nephews/nieces and two sisters… so of course I buy things for kid and women regularly as gifts.
Replying to @TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Jeff Bezos does not understand the thought of buying something for someone else.
Replying to @hperrin@lemmy.ca
Jeff Bezos understands it very well, it’s why Amazon worked so well… It is us morons who are convinced that a trivial PURCHASED gift will make us happy. It won’t and it doesn’t it. I’m glad you all enjoy the cheap goods made by children in a sweat shop as a means of caring for your friends and family.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Lol I have “invested in the Apple ecosystem”. I’ve never bought an Apple product my whole life but ok.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Doesn’t seem to exist on the Canadian version.
Replying to @Creegz@lemmy.world
Ok it’s not just me then.
Either it is hidden from Canadians or the two of us are profoundly uninteresting.
I tracked down the shopping preferences area but it was blank, I don’t tell them about me, I don’t buy clothes from them so they don’t know my size, in don’t buy pet things so they don’t know my pets info.
I buy random things a few times a year if they aren’t available locally.
Replying to @Creegz@lemmy.world
Me too, but I’m also profoundly uninteresting.
Replying to @Creegz@lemmy.world
I’m in the USA and don’t see it. Thiugh there is some ither thing to “Request Your Data” which says it “should not take more than a month”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
You know who has no friends?
Douchebag Jeff Bezos. That’s who.
Everyone fucking hates you dude.
Replying to @FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
I’ve never seen a photo of his yacht full of people having fun.
Replying to @modus@lemmy.world
They only do parties in international waters. Because of the implications
Replying to @SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
And the kids. It’s because they like to fuck kids.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine is all about chickens, cats, and then a bunch of things listed as “extensive” indoor plant cultivation, climate control focus, food processing, etc.
Other than chickens and cats, it’s mostly a wishlist of hobbies I don’t actually have but have purchased supplies for through amazon, and then assumptions based on a couple brands I did buy (due to a friend getting the same, so we could intermingle the things, not because I liked it myself)
All in all, lol
I don’t use Amazon more than maybe twice a year so all they say about me is the town I live in (duh, that’s where they send my orders), that I buy men’s clothes, and own a honda.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
To find such information for ourselves, the link says “you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link”.
under the Account & Lists drop down menu.
Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it."
That’s why online software instructions are rarely useful, they most often mention options that are not availabel when I look for them. Possibly because things are updated too often.
Replying to @betanumerus@lemmy.ca
I found it in here
Replying to @partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
amazon
i guess i should be patting myself on the back for not having used amazon long enough for it to forget who i am.
Replying to @betanumerus@lemmy.ca
For me it was in the top-middle of the Account page, called “About You”
Replying to @betanumerus@lemmy.ca
I couldn’t find it on desktop but found it easily on mobile.
Replying to @betanumerus@lemmy.ca
Yeah, the instructions from the website didn’t work. I had to hover over Account & Lists, then click on Shopping Preferences, then scroll down to click on Manage Your Information under About You.
Mine said they didn’t have any info on me, since I haven’t shopped there since 1998.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Must be an American thing where no rules for corporations exist. Nothing on my swedish version.
Replying to @Boingboing_r@lemmy.world
Be glad. Otherwise the Amazon suggestions probably:
Replying to @hakunawazo@lemmy.world
Well this is embarassing. How did you find my search history but amazon wouldnt show me?
Replying to @Boingboing_r@lemmy.world
I see nothing on my Canadian one.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I removed one related to relatives and gave the reason as life event or loss, so now it will probably offer grief related books or some weird trick to buy more stuff lol! I should cancel it really.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“About you: We haven’t saved anything yet.”
As it should be.
Replying to @dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
Mine has zero information. I am not unhappy about this.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Jeff Bezos hosted Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to his private, invitation-only, weekend at a resort he rented out. Bezos had many close ties to Epstein. Bezos also had numerous private dinners with Epstein.
The photo is from a party where Ghislaine Maxwell hobnobbed with him but make no mistake they were close friends.
Make sure to add this note to your files about Jeff Bezos, founder of Amazon.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
If you’re curious what kind of haphazard observations Amazon is keeping on you, you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link under the Account & Lists drop down menu. Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it. On mobile, you click on the profile account icon on the bottom bar, hit “Account,” then “Shopping preferences,” and then “About you.”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Am I the only one not insulted by “about you”? Or are you guys retrieving all your data?
I’ve been using Amazon for decades but more heavily since Covid: I expect it to know a lot about my purchases. “About you” lists only 32 items and every one of them is a true fact related to my shopping. It does not show any dossier agregation or outside data. Nothing about me personally
The biggest privacy issue is knowing what type of car I drive, but I volunteered that info because I was so frustrated with their “smart” search trying to sell me similar parts for other car types
As long as they’re only using my purchase history with them, only using facts and not selling it, I’m fine with that
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
Right? Of all the things Amazon should know about me, how does it only know that I like to buy things I’ve bought off Amazon? Is it because I don’t use an Alexa or have Fire tablets?
Like “invested in the Nintendo Switch.” Yeah, of course they’d know that. There’s no “is a dweeb” or “bought Catherine: Full Body” or anything fun like that. “Bought ND filters for a camera.” The weirdest one claims I buy “high end” audio equipment when I bought one of their cheapest pre-amps.
Replying to @BigPotato@lemmy.world
Is it because I don’t use an Alexa or have Fire tablets?
No. I have multiple Alexa’s, a fire stick, and used to have multiple Fire tablets. Maybe they actually follow through when you set preferences to not track
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
Mine is similar. I have several Alexas and a Fire tablet, too.
My data is mostly correct and based on my purchase history, with a couple of entries seeming to be inferences based on my history, and most of them are wrong (it thinks I have an infant under 1 year old; no idea why it thinks that). All my entries are pretty boring.
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
Mines incredibly uninteresting and all clearly based on my shopping and wish list.
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
I think a lot of the personal stuff is coming from people who have the always-listening voice assistant things.
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
mine didn’t have anything fun either :(
Replying to @AA5B@lemmy.world
It probably depends on what state or country you live in. Mine was also boring and mostly factual.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Some of the records they have are silly. Ie: likely owns x router (well duh I just purchased it). But some are odd - “can touch type without looking at keyboard”. How did they figure that out?
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
About they track the time between key inputs when you’re searching for something. God knows why though I can’t imagine it being particularly useful information.
Replying to @echodot@feddit.uk
How they got that observation makes sense. There must be some assumptions about that then - like that perhaps I’m more tech savvy than most people (apparently 20% of people can do that), or perhaps I make more money than average and my prices should be higher. That’s probably it.
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
My naive/ innocent assumption would be that if you happened to purchase mechanical keyboard supplies you might be interested in blank key caps since you don’t need the glyphs.
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
If you have a webcam, is it possible they had some kind of software watching your eyes while you were typing? Or am I just being paranoid now
Replying to @kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
I keep my camera closed. But I image the light would go on if I was being watched?
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
It can be set not to turn on the light. Had an incident on an HP workstation where it said camera was off but it was broadcasting. Had to do some command line low level stuff to set the state of it to actually off. LED came on and off when toggle for web calls, but turning the camera off wasn’t actually doing that.
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
Speed of typing, time between clicking on the search bar and beginning to type, and how fast you correct typos since that requires you to be looking at the text while typing. Maybe also some theory-free inference if they’re handing your browsing activity to ai, which they probably are. I’m not sure what else, but a lot of storefront time is typing, so they’d be able to build a lot of confidence about what your typing method is. It’s one of the few things they could learn by directly observing your actions rather than browsing history.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine seemed horribly out of date. Had constantly buys liquid death, but I havent in years since they switched to stevia. Also got constantly upgrading PC storage, not in 2026. Everything else was has work shop, likes precision tools, has a fujifilm camera, has fender guitar, works on guitar, upgraded server rack, invested in raspberry pi ecosystem. Most of what would give them that data was from accessory purchases, as the big purchase was probably local (guitar, camera). None of those aside from guitar strings would have been bought in 2026.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I haven’t logged into my Amazon account in ten years, and this won’t make me do it.
Learn the difference between need and want. Stop buying crap you don’t need. And, never knowingly buy anything off Amazon.
Fuck Amazon, and Jeff Bezos. All excuses people make to willingly buy off that fucking site are bullshit.
Replying to @TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world
Yeah, I don’t buy off them, but I did check, there’s nothing there on me.
Replying to @TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world
It is amazing,the difference between want and need. I quit them cold turkey, thought it would be hard, but turns out, no. Not really, they had nothing I had to have. I save money, and prevent waste. And avoid supporting Amazon.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I logged into my amazon account. It’s been 15 years or more since I used it. Here’s what it has on me:
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I logged into my old US account. It didn’t have anythin on me, but did have this:
LOL. Fuck no.
Replying to @StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world
Yeah mine is the same. Plan to keep it that way. I don’t know how it got that way, probably saw an article like “opt out of all these AI features” and then did all of them without even thinking.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I find this thread kind of weird, how like, we have people practically saying Amazon is the best thing ever and then we have people saying Amazon is the most evil thing/company ever etc.
There’s no in between, no nuance, nothing - it’s either one or the other. I find that pretty interesting.
Replying to @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
“Amazon is actually just mid” would just be a strange take.
Replying to @OlPatchy2Eyes@slrpnk.net
yeah like they’re genuinely super evil but there’s a reason so many people have prime subs. 30 minute delivery really is really fuckin handy in a lot of situations
Replying to @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
It’s the same reaction to AI.
Replying to @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
Both are not mutually exclusive.
Replying to @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
I find it interesting too. I think the absolutism and inflexibility we’re seeing are consequences of the Information Age. Endless content is available 24/7, and people have become addicted to whatever feel-good chemistry they get out of wallowing in it. They maximize their consumption by minimizing the time and effort spent on each little scrap - take in just enough information to make an instant value judgement and scroll ahead, case closed. Judgement is streamlined by thinking in absolutes - every issue just takes a simple swipe left/right. Uncertainty and rethinking are avoided by making all judgements final. Bad behavior is irredeemable.
Like any good delusion, this kind of absolutism is self-reinforcing. It says anyone who doesn’t share it is complicit in evil. I don’t see any way it’s going to change.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine reads like Ms. Casey’s outies affirmations
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Maintains personal grooming routines
OMG, how embarrassing!
Replying to @AnotherWastedHuman@retrolemmy.com
How much personal grooming do you have to do to get that? Does your score increase if you buy vagazil?
Replying to @aceshigh@lemmy.world
I bought two nose hair trimmers to earn such a description. Yes, in have a very hairy nose (inside). I kill most nose hair shavers in a year or so.
Replying to @blargh513@sh.itjust.works
(inside)
Well thanks for putting that hilarious image in my head of what (outside) looks like!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
How do you check this?
Replying to @OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml
RTFA.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“Please don’t tell anyone how I live.”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Anyone know an alternative seller of bulk needles? I really want to get off Amazon and this just confirms it for me.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
mine:
uses 915Mhz radios not related to helium mining interest
Likely prefers JoyServe for food storage containers
Electronics Components and Cables
RF and Antenna Equipment
Engages in RF and wireless communications
Works on electronics projects
Repairs household appliances
Consistently maintains robotic vacuum systems
Likely owns multiple iRobot Roomba vacuum systems
Likely prefers bulk purchasing for consumables
Increased electronics component purchasing
Values waterproof and durable outdoor equipment
Builds and maintains smart home systems
Likely has a comprehensive smart home automation system
Likely chooses Fisher Space Pen for writing instruments
Likely favors technical precision tools and components
Likely owns a Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE calculator
I own one Roomba, but as noted, it prefers bulk consumable purchases. other than those and the food containers, there’s not a lot of stuff on that list that I’m likely to buy.
I prob should have cross-posted to dull men’s club
Replying to @rumba@lemmy.zip
Likely owns a Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus
My man!
Replying to @rumba@lemmy.zip
I prob should have cross-posted to dull men’s club
Mine would be too boring for Dull Men’s Club…
Brands: Likely prefers Logitech peripherals
Departments: Novelty socks
Brands: Likely values cable management and organization
Interests & Hobbies: Likely builds and maintains custom computers
Departments: Computer Components
Departments: Hot sauces
Departments: Gaming Accessories
Home & Family: Likely has an outdoor space
Departments: Lawn and yard Care
Product Preferences: Shops from men’s clothing departments
Departments: Emergency preparedness
Brands: Likes Anker for charging solutions
Home & Family: Likely has a garage
Interests & Hobbies: Plays video games
Product Preferences: Consistently repurchases favorite snack
Product Preferences: Prioritizes sweat managements products
Brands: Prefers SweatBlock for antiperspirant products
Product Preferences: Build home audio system over time
Departments: Home audio equipment
Product Preferences: Likely favors ergonomic computer peripherals
Replying to @Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
Hmm, ok, new pitch, dating site that’s solely powered by Amazon Product preferences!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I was surprised how ordinary mine was. Things like buys mens clothing, does home improvement projects, maintains automobile, prefers high quality products.
Replying to @llama@lemmy.zip
Yeah, mine was what anyone could glean looking at my purchase history.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
It used none of my years of purchases before I canceled my Prime membership, and now only has stuff related to what I buy with the Amazon gift card my mom sends me every year. It really thinks I like power tools now. I mean, I do, but it has like 8 categories related to power tools now. “Likes power tools” “Maintains outdoor property actively” “likes established brands of power tools” “prefers electric outdoor equipment” “focus on outdoor maintenance”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
There is no “about you” option on the Canadian version 🤔
Replying to @the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world
Yeah I think maybe USA only?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Was always glad to have never been an Amazon customer, even more so now.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Okay, I can say with 100% certainty that many of the data points they publish on me are details I packed into Amazon product reviews, as I participate in Amazon Vine.
I recognize the Expressions I used, and know the anecdotes I pulled from. I’m not saying it’s the only source, but they have over 500 entries in the stack here that I’m looking at, as I’m deleting them one at a time I’m remembering what reviews they’re associated with.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine says I like Star Wars and photography. So yes, I too have no friends.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
None of my accounts are linked. Amateurs.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“Has no friends”, I’d be furious if it wasn’t true…
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I have to say, this was an accurate and non-offensive assent of my spending habits.
Of course, that was just what they felt comfortable sharing, I know I’ve made purchases through Amazon they could have called me out on.
Replying to @Weirdfish@lemmy.world
It is OK to say you bought a dildo on amazon. I promise, you’re among friends.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine said I need to buy things to figure out who I was. I’ve boycotted them since 2022 and I was pretty bought into the Alexa ecosystem with my house’s lights and entertainment.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I use Amazon solely for ahem adult items. This will be interesting.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
This should shock no one and if anything the shocking thing is transparency (though that is likely a ploy as I guarantee based on these articles plenty of people will go view it to correct the record, giving Amazon a great source of refinement for ad tracking)
Literally every major website (and basically every website that run JavaScript for that matter) tracks and profiles you. Your tv does the same, as does your phone and almost all the apps on it, etc. and the profiling they don’t show you definitely exists: race, political affiliation/leaning, income estimates, address, educational level, health issues, etc
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I was sort of unimpressed with mine. It was all variations of:
-Likely lives in <city where I have every order shipped>
-Likely owns <thing I buy accessories for>
And then for some reason it thinks I own a Dodge Ram. I have four vehicles saved to my account. None of them are a Dodge Ram.
Replying to @wittymcusername@lemmy.zip
Where did you find it?
Replying to @ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
I found it using my phone’s browser and I can’t remember how different the mobile page and desktop page are, so YMMV, but:
I clicked my name and a menu popped up. On that menu under “Your Account” I clicked “See all options” and it took me to a page that had “Hello” in the upper left, and beneath that a link that said “About You”, which took me to the page with that stuff.
Replying to @wittymcusername@lemmy.zip
I’m curious why you’d have four vehicles saved to an Amazon account? Like… For what reason?
Replying to @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Will show you compatible parts
Replying to @Zannsolo@lemmy.world
I see.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
If this is as good as they get, they should be embarrassed about how much money they’ve spent on this stuff. Oh, I prefer the brand of product that I bought multiple times? Shocking!
I’m not surprised though. I bought a microwave through Amazon about a year ago. They showed me other microwaves for like a month after. So dumb.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Looks to be not a thing in EU, can’t find the UI for it
Replying to @gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
I found it in the location the article said. I had to enter from the browser in “desktop mode” with my phone, but the section was empty
Replying to @BroccoLemuria@lemmy.world
Ooh okay, so maybe not in the app yet in EU?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“Has no money.”
Replying to @dropdrip@lemmy.ml
I mean, yeah, but why you gotta call me out like that?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine just says I like analog and vintage photography stuff and lacy and shiny clothes. Neither of which are very shocking.
Replying to @FRYD@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Yeah, mine was just wrong. It says “likely lives in name of vacation spot,” even though I went there just twice this year and had some stuff shipped. The rest of the site knows my actual address but this “about me” section doesn’t.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Where is this fucking page? I want to know where!
Replying to @blackshirt@lemmy.world
It could be that it isn’t there on the Canadian version?/
Replying to @ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
You could try reading the article.
Replying to @modus@lemmy.world
It’s literally not in the article bro.
Replying to @cdf12345@lemmy.zip
It’s in the part that says “If you’re curious what kind of haphazard observations Amazon is keeping on you, you can pull up the page by clicking on the “Account” link under the Account & Lists drop down menu. Scroll to the bottom of the page you land on and click a small link that says “manage your information” and there you have it. On mobile, you click on the profile account icon on the bottom bar, hit “Account,” then “Shopping preferences,” and then “About you.”'”
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Weighs 398 lbs, that’s all they got and it’s wrong
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“Invests in waterproof bed protection”
adds “Successful Investor” to resumé
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
damn… they said I’m a virign with small dick. very insulting
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Non issue. The crap I do buy there is defined perfectly. Nothing even remotely like my ass is flat. Sigh
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
I looked at mine, it didn’t have anything insulting, but it had a lot of outdated stuff which makes sense as I cut my Amazon usage down to almost nothing since a couple of years ago.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
This is the only thing that isn’t “likely interested in electronics [because I buy some niche parts off amazon]” or “likely uses [brand of phone I have occasionally bought screen protectors for]”
Aaaaaand it’s wrong! So, a little disappointed there. Was hoping for something super judgemental. Man though, it’d be interesting to see what this service would make of my lemmy profile…
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine said I’m a pedophile. I’m very insulted. That’s not the right word. I just look at all the feet products! Toe creases are the meaning of life, ok!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
It knows the brand of shoes I buy from them, that I buy in bulk for consumables and that I have a dog.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Doesn’t enjoy shopping with: Amazon
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Huh, just a bunch of “Probably own…” and for some reason it thinks I own a Land Rover… I do not own a Land Rover… I didn’t correct it.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
We haven’t saved anything yet. As you shop on Amazon or chat with Alexa, we’ll save helpful information to personalize your experience.
Once we have saved some details, you can manage them here.
nice
Replying to @noxypaws@pawb.social
Since I noticed alexa was mentioned here is the firefox addon that removes it from amazon: addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/…/adios-alexa/
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Nothing under mine. There’s a place where I can input that kind of information, but everything is empty. Maybe this is unique to US America?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
“Established spice collection building”, What? The only thing I can think of that would contribute to this is I got Orange Blossom water once, and canisters for loose tea. I haven’t even gotten a coffee or spice grinder, not even a pepper mill.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Is this only for Amazon US? I don’t see anything similar for Amazon México.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
You guys didn’t turn off ad personalization?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
Mine is basically just a list of products I have bought.
Likes backpacking
Yeah well I bought a full kit off Amazon so that tracks…
ha! mine ain’t got shit!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
They know I have a filtration system and enjoy comedy. That’s my whole personality right there!
Replying to @leg@leminal.space
I prefer my comedy unfiltered.
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
How did they ever get this groundbreaking information?!
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
You guys didn’t delete that crap yet?
Replying to @eicker@lemmy.world
After shopping a lot from them for 22 years now, what a letdown:
About you
We haven’t saved anything yet. As you shop on Amazon or chat with Alexa, we’ll save helpful information to personalize your experience.
Once we have saved some details, you can manage them here.