posted in Asklemmy
By making homelessness illegal, are we locking people up without a trial?
posted in Asklemmy
By making homelessness illegal, are we locking people up without a trial?
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
making homelessness illegal
That’s a great idea! Other great ideas:
Replying to @axh@lemmy.world
I was trying to say that making homelessness illegal is fucking stupid, and is a disgusting example of peak capitalism.
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
In the United States, all crime is like that. Areas with no cash bond are better about it, but most places only let the people before trial out if they can afford to pay.
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
If homelessness is illegal, are homes being provided? How are homeless people supposed to just manifest a home out of the ether?
Replying to @_deleted_@aussie.zone
It’s a crime to be poor
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
I’m not following your logic on this one. I mean, we are definitely shit to homeless people, but I’m not seeing the direct logical connection you’re making cause and effect wise.
Replying to @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
Sure.
So, in the US, you’re innocent until proven guilty. You cannot be guilty of a crime until you’re proven guilty of it. Speeding tickets require a judge to determine guilt.
A lot of US states are making it illegal to be homeless. They’re rounding people up and sending them to asylums or work programs. Which means. . . they’re being imprisoned without a trial. And. . . If they’re given a trial by judge (like with tickets), the crime they’re committing is something they couldn’t have avoided in the first place.
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
The prison never stops being built.
System of a Down - Prison Song www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4L20t8Dvlg
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
More meat for the grinder unfortunately. Private prisons gotta make money somehow.
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
i dont know where OP was going with this. but…
the criminalization/coercion of street-homeless to overcrowded sub-standard shelter… basically is a prison( remarkably similar to jail) or concentration camp.
a significant chunk of the residents are ex-cons who recently got released but they dont have money+job for an apartment(if they even want one).
Replying to @ki4jgt@feddit.org
Bad news: we lock people up without trials all the time, for lots of reasons that have nothing to do with homelessness.