Replying to @⁨QueenHawlSera@piefed.social⁩

Nah.

The real move is con icting them for the theft and pain and suffering they caused necessary to accumulate that much wealth. Them and all the people that facilitated it, which still isn’t that many people.

Seize all their wealth, and due to the scale of people they hurt accumulating that wealth, it’s all gonna be life sentences.

If it’s over in an instant the lesson is forgotten quickly.

Throw them in gen pop federal prison with no resources to protect them, and let them rot. That’s a bigger deterrent, and literally the only time sentencing deters crimes is when the criminal already has enough they don’t need to steal.

We need to make it so no millionaire would ever dream of stepping into a grey area, and when they do, we make an example.

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Replying to @⁨givesomefucks@lemmy.world⁩

The trouble is that the legal system is required to enforce any of that, and the billionaires have unlimited legal resources; politicians need to enact those laws, and their influence and support can be bought.

To have hope of it suceeding there would need to be overwhelming popular support. And while most people alive know that what’s currently happening in the world needs to change - many disagree on what that change should look like (because they’re misinformed or ignorant). It might take decades to change their minds, and the billionaires own the media…

If it’s over in an instant the lesson is forgotten quickly.

100%, on a historical, societal level.

Trouble is presently there’s no accountability for them, zero they can’t buy their way out of. They think they’re untouchable, and they’re honestly not wrong.

I think they need to be touched. A lot. And hard.

Given the urgency, I don’t much care about the mode or method.

Replying to @⁨pulsewidth@lemmy.world⁩

Sometimes I forget how much learned helplessness resulted form 30 years of neoliberalism…

Every “reason” you just gave, is an excuse popularized by neoliberals.

Like, you understand for 99.99999999% of human history, we managed to stop people from becoming billionaires with almost zero effort, right?

Some shit that started in the 1990s, can be undone

It’s not fucking permanent just because you were likely born after it’s started.

Not to mention:

I think they need to be touched

Your option is what they spend money on. They have security and actual bunkers.

None of what your saying makes any logical or rational sense. You’re upset. Which is cool

But people are talking about how to really fix it while you keep interrupting to jack off about how much you want to kill people for being “them”.

Replying to @⁨givesomefucks@lemmy.world⁩

This is a forum, it’s really not possible to interrupt people.

So, again… your (barely coherent) plan was to jail them (you don’t specify exact reasons just ‘if they step outta line’) and talk about ‘millionaires’ as if that isn’t like 18% of the US population - and then when someone pointed out how that plan may have some teensy logical flaws, you assert they’re being irrational and upset?

Like, you understand for 99.99999999% of human history, we managed to stop people from becoming billionaires with almost zero effort, right?

Do you understand that we’ve only had capitalism for less than 99.9% of human history? And billionaires for less than the figure you quote? Wow, congrats: we stopped billionaires for the entire time they didn’t exist, hooray us.

You know what fix to the burgeoise in France had lasting historical effects that are still being felt to this day?

Chopping all their fucking heads off, coincidentally about 100 years into the start of capitalism.

Far as I can see, the only person intellectually wanking off in this conversation is the person suggesting jailing an extremely powerful sector of the populace with only a tiny fringe of public support.