zettajon@zettajon@lemmy.ml

Replying to a post on ⁨feddit.de⁩

Nope, Apple sells your data just as much as Google does: insiderintelligence.com/…/apple-ad-revenues-skyro… vox.com/…/apple-iphone-app-store-ads-privacy-anti…

While people noticed their new policies against 3rd party apps, that masked the fact that those policies carved out an exception for first party apps, meaning they collect (anonymous) data on you through Health, Journal, Music, etc. just like every other company. “Trusting them more” is simply a result of you and everyone else getting hit with their privacy ads recently.

Edit: “just like every other company” meant Google and Microsoft, i.e. the other big equivalent tech companies, my fault for not being specific.

Platform27@Platform27@lemmy.ml

Replying to @⁨zettajon@lemmy.ml⁩

Health is on-device, and is E2EE. To my knowledge, that’s always been the case. They do allow optional data linking services, but those need to be setup by the end-user. Apple should have no knowledge of this data, by default. Notes can be E2EE (with ADP), and with Journal (a new iOS feature) being E2EE. Music is a paid for service, with no ads, and is one of the more privacy respecting options. Data is needed for Music to help serve the user, and suggest artists/songs… it’s literally one of the platforms benefits, over self-hosting.

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Platform27@Platform27@lemmy.ml

Replying to @⁨zettajon@lemmy.ml⁩

Apple does not sell user data. By all means, look at their Privacy Policy (it’s easy to read), and show me where this is mentioned. They do collect it, and use it for their own marketing platform, but they don’t sell/trade it. In fact they DO anonymise the data they collect. Take a look: apple.com/…/Differential_Privacy_Overview.pdf This is just one document, found after a quick search. They also disclose other details on their security, and other privacy (or lack thereof) aspects.

Now show me where other ad agencies, not just one or two, that goes to the same lengths, while also giving decent documentation. I’m not saying Apple is perfect (far from it).

zettajon@zettajon@lemmy.ml

Replying to @⁨Platform27@lemmy.ml⁩

They do collect it, and use it for their own marketing platform

Right

but they don’t sell/trade it

Then what are they collecting it for? To line their servers? It’s being used to train services, and those services that have ads have those ads targeted using the data collected in the first sentence I quoted.

In fact they DO anonymise the data they collect

So does google. Again, to the broader thread audience replying to my original comment, what is the difference?