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Reddit Almost Disappears from ChatGPT as Search Citations Drop 86%
cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1350973/reddit-almost-disappears-from-chatgpt-as-search-citations-drop-86
promptwatch.com/data/reddit-citations-are-dropping-in-chatgptReplying to @beep@piefed.world
The drop correlates with the time reddit locked down old reddit from accessing anonymously/without logging in to avoid AI scraping. Reddit themselves did this.
EDOT: And OpenAI also changed how the web search works; forbes.com/…/reddit-nearly-vanishes-from-chatgpt-…
ForbesReddit Nearly Vanishes From ChatGPT Citations After OpenAI Search Change, Report SuggestsReddit's share of ChatGPT citations collapsed 86% to 0.5% after OpenAI changed how ChatGPT Search works — the same week Reddit joined the S&P 500.OpenAI would not have been scraping old ui?
Also most reddit content has long since been injested. No need to visit your http site anymore
Replying to @im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
They actually did use old reddit, as confirmed by reddit itself, as confirmed by massive drop after the change. It was simply far easier to scrape old reddit (pre-rendered instead of relying on JavaScript and dynamic content load)
EngadgetOld Reddit could be the next casualty of Reddit's war on AI scraping - EngadgetThe company is also planning to retire its public API.You seem to have misunderstood, and the article you linked doesn’t contradict what I’ve said.
Wealthy, sophisticated LLM developers would not have been scraping old reddit. They would pay reddit for API access.
Shutting down old reddit closes the door on back yard developers, not OpenAI.
Additionally, when you run a prompt in a chatbot, it doesn’t scurry away and scrape old reddit and then formulate an answer. The scraping of content is going on while the model is being developed.
Wealthy, sophisticated LLM developers would not have been scraping old reddit. They would pay reddit for API access.
Shutting down old reddit closes the door on back yard developers, not OpenAI.
And yet it did. And yet reddit mentioned shutting down API too
As if wealthy people pay for stuff they could have for free. Literally everybody had their copyright infringed from the training of GenAI. Authors, Journalists, Artists, Musicians, Regisseurs, the list is endless. Unless you sue, you won’t see any compensation from them. By now you should know that companies only play fair if they’re forced to, otherwise literally anything goes.
It’s quite naive to believe they would pay for API access, tbh.