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inari@inari@piefed.zip
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U.S. preparing to force Netherlands to ban ASML from selling to China

nltimes.nl/2026/08/20/us-preparing-force-netherlands-ban-asml-selling-china
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TheMightyCat@TheMightyCat@ani.social
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It’s time for Europe to decide if we want to be a US puppet state or independent.

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REDACTED@REDACTED@infosec.pub
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As an European, I very much prefer not giving Russia’s ally important technology.

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inari@inari@piefed.zip
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It’s pointless. They’ll just produce domestically whatever you refuse to sell them. And then ASML will lose its monopoly by having to compete with Chinese firms.

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wicked@wicked@programming.dev
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Chinese firms are already trying to replicate it. Giving them one to study may just accelerate the process.

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Great Blue Heron@GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca
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They’ve already tried that - they bought one, pulled it apart to see how it worked and couldn’t put it together again. There’s a Veritasium video about it.

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SleeplessCityLights@SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
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You can’t do that. There is a reason only one company in the entire world can do it. It’s because it’s really hard to do and it is an iterative technology.

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inari@inari@piefed.zip
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Well, now China has no other option other than trying to produce it.

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Talcosis@impairedimperator@lemmy.zip
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That reason is nobody has ever dumped a shitload of cash into it because it was cheaper to just buy from the company that already figured it out.

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REDACTED@REDACTED@infosec.pub
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So your logic is “Give China everything they ask otherwise they will make their own and outcompete you”?

You know, that sounds awfully close to what Russians constantly say, but replace make with take

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inari@inari@piefed.zip
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It’s not my logic, it’s what’s currently happening after the US imposed bans of certain technologies on China

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