Not American. What is flock? Is this like a ring doorbell? Are people suggesting to destroy personal property of their neighbours?

Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?

Government contracted cameras in public spaces.

Wow. Thanks for informing me. Stay safe guys

You’re welcome. I hope it’s a nice day where you are.

Canada. Its generally okay here but we do stupid shit like this too, just way less thank flock. I’m sure it’ll emerge in some form.

Not just cameras. They also have RFID, WiFi, Bluetooth, and probably other crap I don’t remember. The idea is that even if the face rec doesn’t identify you, they still can by probing for credit cards and mobile devices. Disgusting.

Fair point. I was trying to be succinct, not intentionally vague.

Or is this like some government cameras that are in public spaces filming ?

It’s a nationwide network of cameras used by federal, state, and local governments to track and profile people in public. It doesn’t just record, but builds a database of information on every car, license plate, and person that’s filmed, so it’s seen to be very dystopian.

Even worse, the tech gets it wrong and mistaken identity is common, and it ends up endangering people due to the violent methods US police employ. However, it’s privacy concerns that are foremost, because there’s an amendment in our country’s Constitution that should prohibit this kind of privacy violation.

If you’d like to learn more, I made a YT video on the topic recently.

Wild stuff. That is far worse than I thought was going on.

What a scary timeline and I hope the country and sort out this stuff and reform this type activity.

They’re not just cameras. They also log nearby mobile devices. They’ve gone from a few hundred nationwide to over 100,000 in like 2 years.

Uber is going to start implementing the same thing, so mobile Flock that you wouldn’t be able to take down.

Someone could deploy devices that clone signals they hear and replay them at random to poison all the data. But they definitely should not do that.

don’t forget how many of them are just straight up creep cameras, installed pointing at childrens pools, playgrounds, peoples homes, etc.

It’s a revenue stream for Flock. Allowing members of the Epstein Class to view the stream of children.

explains the millions of hits per month on the cameras.

And this is why calling them “license plate readers” is hugely disingenuous, to the point of being straight up propaganda. The term vastly downplays what they can do. They don’t just scan license plates. They scan nearby devices’ Bluetooth and WiFi signals. They scan faces. They scan gait to determine specific limb proportions. They scan tattoos and birthmarks. They scan bumper stickers, dings/dents, etc… If you walk in front of a camera, it will use every trick in the book to try and figure out who you are specifically.

Safety+Creep or Liberty?

Definitely don’t remind people to leave their phones at home or use a Faraday bag to shield their tech.

Indeed. Not having those signals to trace could make it significantly more difficult for law enforcement to identify you, and we certainly don’t want the essential job of law enforcement to be inhibited.

Also people shouldn’t be wearing masks. That would be make them even harder to identify for law enforcement.

People also shouldn’t pair those masks with infrared-blocking sunglasses or goggles. Because the cameras can see in infrared, and will see straight through regular darkened lenses.

Camera can still track you with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, keep that in mind

It can’t if you leave your phone and electronics at home, which you should be anyways.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/…/260522023127.htm

Only the most dastardly vandals would leave their phone (and all other Bluetooth devices) at home, plugged in charging, auto-lock fully disabled, on their home WiFi, with YouTube set to auto-play a playlist. That would create a watch history that the vandal could later use to prove that they were active at home at the time of the crime. Again, you definitely shouldn’t do that.

I do though

they probably are constitutional, but only because the constitution says nothing about tge government buying data from private companies.

yep, flock exists purely to get around the 4th amendment.

People are downvoting you, but you’re right. It’s one of the reasons why the constitution is weak in the modern era, and in need of massive additions. It just is too vague, too geared towards a world that no longer exists, and hasn’t existed for over 70 years.

they are? I guess the votes haven’t federated yet

They were, but it seems you’re being upvoted now.

9th amendment.

It’s the best amendment, despite being, legally, the most useless.

I would argue that it was meant to cover the kind of situation where a private company is given government permission to gather surveillance data from the citizenry, in exchange for access to said data.