long past time. what’s taking people so long

Yep. Pretty sure it’s just inertia/network effect at this point.

what’s taking people so long

besides the fact that there’s no decent alternative for workloads of a certain size/scale?

There’s always Azure DevOps. Wait…

Which almost nobody needs?

What is missing from GitLab?

A platform that is down for almost a whole day every month does not seem like a decent alternative for those workloads

If you have to ask the question, you haven’t made a serious comparison of the two.

No, I have just migrated my company to self-hosted GL and found a better experience with literally no downsides.

I think it is a fair question, because I really don’t see what could be the deal-breaker. Is it copilot, or the terrible GitHub actions?

You don’t see the deal breaker because your requirements are clearly low enough that open-core software works for your use case. Your experience is not universal. Your inexperience is leading you to believe you’re more knowledgeable than you really are. I don’t need to explain myself to someone that engages in bad faith arguments.

Let me guess, you chose Gitlab because you’re a DHH fanboy?

Not the person, but get off your high horse, and either explain what you mean, or shut up.

Thats a lot of words to say nothing of value.

Thats a lot of words to say nothing of value.

Projection ain’t just for the cinemas.

At least you’re self aware

That’s a lot of words over two comments to avoid answering a simple question

Thanks for continuing to put your inexperience on display. If you’re so certain you’re right, you don’t need my answer.

Ah, it’s me who’s certain to be right and is avoiding discussion by being elitist, sure.

Bye, enjoy refreshing GitHub for hours

Oh noes. Some internet rando called me names because I wouldn’t provide free labor for them. You sure told me.

You’re spending more effort to be a smug prick than it would take to just rattle off an example or three. Sounds more to me like you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about and just want to publicly stroke your… Ego.

“Sounds to me like…”

Nobody asked you? Why do we care what you think?

Sounds to me like you’re insecure and looking for a free handout instead of being able to come up with a coherent reason for why you’re owed something you’ve not earned.

Nobody asked you? Why do we care what you think?

Nobody asked you in particular, either, but here we are like 3-4 replies deep anyway. Even if we had, you’ve refused to answer so you can act like a smug cunt instead, so you’d apparently be useless at it anyway.

Sounds to me like you’re insecure and looking for a free handout instead of being able to come up with a coherent reason for why you’re owed something you’ve not earned.

My guy, then just shut the fuck up. You don’t have to use it as an opportunity to grandstand and fellate yourself for being so smart to get it. You could just say nothing if you don’t want to actually contribute. Honestly, you’ve been worse than useless here.

You’re spending an awful lot of time telling me I don’t get to reply to comments off my own thread. Maybe stop and realize that my original comment didn’t need any replies and y’all are the ones wasting your time and energy arguing downthread instead of getting smart enough to go start your own thread if you want to express yourself.

It’s 2026, not 1996. Its time to grow up and learn how threaded conversations work. They aren’t new. It’s awful weird that you’re struggling so much with the concept.

But sure. Keep screeching “STFU” like a child. I’m sure that somehow, somewhere, someone on the internet might actually listen to you. But that someone is not me. I don’t listen to the demands of children.

You’re getting blasted for some reason lol

To add some context, GitHub’s primary strength is integrating different services. GitLab’s primary strength is being “the one thing” that you use. It really depends on your business which one makes most strategic sense. For small to medium, GitLab is great. Even large it can work amazingly.

However, I’ll put my anecdotal two cents in and say that GitHub comes out ahead for very large enterprises, or if you do collaborative, or Business 2 Business stuff, just because of it’s integrations. Integrations are king once you get to scale. If you’re using GitLab + anything else, it’s friction for each additional tool you use, rather than a force multiplier. At a certain point it restricts you.

Honestly. GitHub has been playing catch-up to Gitlab’s features for like decade to me. I still prefer their ci runner model to this day.

Decentralisation. I don’t want to fall in the same trap picking a huge platform which can only be ran by a large entity. Federation in Forgejo is taking quite long.

We made a PoC on top of Solid which does work so it is clearly possible, but the code quality is too low to trust the solution.

gitlab?

Why even rely on a web interface for git, just use git

Pull requests and issue trackers

I can do a pull request via email

Why do issue trackers need to be connected?

Genuinely, pull requests being off platform without good integrated diff and merge conflict resolution tooling just doesn’t work at a certain scale.

Like linux kernel scale?

I would argue that Linux kernel scale basically doesn’t work. It is a huge barrier to would-be developers to get into. You might argue that’s a feature, but it’s pretty hard to argue that it doesn’t add a lot of friction to the process

It’s email… everyone knows how to use email, everyone has an email address. It’s the lowest friction possible.

They’ve been pushing a lot of AI slop lately, and in general aim to turn gitlab into an AI-coding-first platform, where humans only coordinate AIs. Search for gitlab act 2 if you wanna know more

When Nightmare Eclipse got banned from GitHub they were also banned from Gitlab because Microsoft ordered them to. I would not use Gitlab.

!c/selfhost

!c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Perhaps we should use git in the distributed manner it was designed

Yeah, too many people don’t know about having multiple remotes

One thing, any chance you’ve heard of a way to have two remotes, one basically ignored gitignore (personal self-hosted storage) vs front-facing with github or similar?

Hmm not natively but I think you could hack something together using git plumbing, perhaps just some hooks. I would still advise against adding secrets to version control even if it stays completely local though, it’s still “bad hygiene” and something you should try to avoid. You don’t need to go with a full-fledged secret management solution, just keep your secrets in .envs or similar external files and use a password manager to store your live keys. Of course it all depends on the specific context, if it’s something bound to loopback I’m not going to stop you from running admin:admin and committing that to your personal docker-compose stash, but if it’s protecting something you care about don’t put it in git.

Reason #74 to do so

I think it was time on October 26, 2018.