Replying to @⁨Tja@programming.dev⁩

Sure. All people have their own opinions. Grouping people by a specific trait doesn’t give you a monolith that shares the same opinions on everything. There are Blacks, Latinos, Gays, and Trans for Trump.

The comment was refuting the insinuation in the headline that only young people feel this way because older people are stupid and awful. Somehow while trying to appear to be welcoming and not discriminate against minorities, the internet has become full of ageist discrimination. Age is another trait people can’t control or change. Discriminating or mocking people based on that is as wrong as doing the same based on skin color or sexuality.

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Older people aren’t stupid and awful, they are just generally more set in their ways, and factually ARE more vulnerable to misinformation and lies, which is why they’re the most vulnerable to scams.

The previous generation, at least in America, was far more repressed and had far less access to information than we do today, which results in more narrow-minded beliefs. Not all old people are like this, but the comment you’re talking about said “old people don’t trust ai” which is not true. Old people as a group do, this person as an individual in that group does not.

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Old people as a group don’t exist. There is no monolith based on simple traits like age, or race, or gender. While more members of one specific group sharing any of these traits can be likely to trust or mistrust or agree with anything, boiling them down to a singular opinion or mental state is always wrong. It’s discriminatory.

You saying old people as a group do trust AI is as fucked up as saying that black people as a group do love watermelon.

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All groupings are arbitrary, it just (sometimes) provides utility to group on some shared attributes. It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they’re necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline), but being older does mean you had less access to multiculturalism, less inundation with scams and technology growing up, and more propaganda that is harder to find counterpoints to.

It’s fully accurate to say “older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more” without that being an attack on any particular old person. That’s a reality old people and young people need to be aware of, whether it’s for an older person to reflect if that’s happening to them, or a younger person to help an older person with.

Replying to @⁨starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works⁩

It’s fully accurate to say “older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more” without that being an attack on any particular old person.

Depending on the area you live in and the the total range of the statistics it can be fully accurate to say that “black people generally love watermelon and fried chicken and are more likely to steal your bike” and for that to not be an attack on any individual person, but also fuck you. Get it? Just because statistics show a thing doesn’t mean you’re not being a piece of shit for using those statistics to denigrate a massive group of people.

Using statistics chosen because they do denigrate a group of people and then acting like it’s not your fault these are what the statistics show is pretty common from hater assholes towards any group.

It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they’re necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline)

This one is fantastic, since several studies have come out showing that Gen Z is the first generation to be less cognitively capable than the one that came before it. They don’t even have leaded gasoline to point to as an excuse. Somehow I don’t think they’d be super happy to see the internet flooded with people assuming anyone in that age range is an idiot.

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You have to live in reality idk what to say, if black people commit more crime in an area I want to have that information so I can figure out why so I can prevent it (outreach programs specifically targeted at black kids for instance), if you say it as a dogwhistle to other racists that’s a different story.

I think genZ is absolutely cooked for different reasons (AI, social media, tiktok, covid lockdowns during a critical part of development) and I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re also an at-risk group to scams.

If your goal is to dogwhisle or denigrate based on identity then yes that’s wrong, but old people are the majority of the voting block and they majority voted for Trump. Saying “old people are racist and closed-minded” is false. Saying “old people are NOT racist and closed-minded” is even more false.

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No, that can’t be. The internet has told me that old people are stupid and love Trump and fascism and it’s totally acceptable to mock and hate people based on their age even though they have no control of their age.

The internet assures me it’s a bastion of welcoming care for all, so the hate against old people must be universally deserved. It’s not like the good people of the internet would just latch on to whatever trends they think will be supported and make them look like good people while allowing them to vomit hate at anyone they in their infinite wisdom determine to be bad people.

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As an old person who knows a lot of old people and has to deal with a lot of other old people, you’re in a bubble. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and you may already be aware.

By and large, early gen X and older have a very difficult time discerning what materials are AI generated. Then when you get to a certain age range, maybe 70+, AI to much of that crowd is just another buzzword they know nothing about.

Now, in the pedantic sense of the word “increasingly”, if literally one more old person is against AI or doesn’t trust AI compared to last year, then that’s increasing. But on the whole, I’m not seeing it. In fact, as AI gets “better” and harder to detect, I’m finding that more people just go with it. You basically end up with camps of “the person who accuses everything of being AI”, “the person who has no clue what’s what and doesn’t care”, and “the person who can’t tell if something is AI regardless of how obvious it is”.