@serge https://futurism.com/future-society/anthropic-destroying-books

@serge nah its an epidemic rn :(( you should google it. it's really crazy. they're going for rare books first

@batzy

Yeah this is what I thought. It's not attempting to destroy all books. It's that scanning books is hard when they still have their spines. Google and even Archive.org have done similar. Not doing so is *extremely* challenging.

And then once the books are digitized, storing them is very expensive. Destroying physical media is easier.

I'm not "defending" it but I know this space. It's less sinister than it sounds, honestly.

@serge @batzy seconding this, and I'll add an anecdote. When I was in college at the end of the 90's and the early 2000's, the way we got our textbooks in an accessible format, (not braille, just text we could read on a computer using a screen reader), was to buy two copies of a book, take apart its binding, feed the pages into a scanner, and then, once done, destroy/get rid of the destroyed books. Scanning in any other way meant a ton of time spent manually correcting the text, which added significant delays onto an already time-consuming process. That part of digital scanning of books hasn't really changed.

@acarson @serge @batzy Oy! I shivered with horror even after reading your post. so many hours spent by scanning and then correcting. Absolutely atrocious work I hated with all my passion!

@menelion @serge @batzy I hated it, but I also got really good at it, and am contemplating doing a little of it to get access to books that aren't available on Bookshare/Bard/Audible/accessible eBook that I would like to read.

@acarson @serge @batzy the problem is that I had to scan French textbooks written in a mixture of Russian and French (because at that time I was studying French from Russian), also with IPA and sometimes with remnants of some idiot students' notes done by pencil or even pen. Really, as we say in russian, as I remember, I shiver.

@acarson

I think one of the things that disability folks understand is the distinction I often make between media and containers.

A printed book can be a very beautiful thing. There's a sensory element to reading from a book, from the cover, to the typescript, the font, even the smell of the book.

But a book is ultimately a container. Its job is to contain the information held within it.

The same is true for things like DVDs, and there are wonderful DVD box sets that are made of metal, contain extras, etc. They have value and are interesting but their purpose is to contain the movie.

Once we think about divorcing the two concepts, the container from the media, we can think about the way we handle the two differently.

There are people who care deeply about containers. I am one of them, but I also rip all my DVDs and keep them in storage. I think I'd end up doing the same with most of my physical books.

@menelion @batzy

@serge @acarson @batzy Exactly. And I also love buying and touching new books, even if I cannot read them. and I love reading a jolly old paper Braille book. But today, when I have no home of my own, it's kinda tough to deal with huge blue boxes with Braille books and send them back and forth.

@menelion are you blind and without home? Is there a gofundme? I can help w a little bit on friday.

@batzy Oh no, thank you! I meant I *rent* an apartment, so don't want to have lots of stuff… I mean, THAT much stuff. Anyway, thanks for your kindness!