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"thou shalt not automate" carl max
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@charlotte fellas is it right-wing to abolish copyright
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@Flaky i heart reproducing the current socioeconomic relations of the current society
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so copyright hasn’t been abolished, nor will it be abolished, it’s just that the laws do not apply to capitalists, as usual
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@charlotte @ug @Flaky fair use was not in the US constitution and therefore was very much not "as designed". a law that can't change to meet new forms of intellectual labor is a broken legal system, and the laws accepted as valid by individuals forms the individual's personal legal system
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@hipsterelectron @ug @Flaky but there's absolutely nothing extraordinary happening here. the property owner receives the compensation in the end. nobody's ever promised it's for public benefit
copyright worked exactly as designed, as a system of property on non material goods. whether or not it's a good system, and whether or not intellectual property is even a meaningful concept are two different questions
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@hipsterelectron @ug @Flaky i think the very concept of non-material property is mostly meaningless, and private property relations should be abolished in general, and that artificial intelligence exposes the contractions in them, such as "fair use" as an intentionally extremely limited escape hatch
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@charlotte @hipsterelectron @Flaky
yeah the concept of intellectual property is bullshit there’s no controversy,
What is contentious I think is that the AI companies are in any way threatening intellectual property as a property relation, or if this is just the case of capitalists being able to ignore laws when it suits them, while they are still imposed on the rest of us.
I think rather we’re seeing quite the opposite, the intensification of the intellectual property regime and the rights of corporations to extend claims of intellectual property indefinitely, like games / movie / tv/ music industry claiming you don’t actually own a physical copy of media, even hardware manufacturers saying you are only leasing hardware etc.
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@ug @hipsterelectron @Flaky the ai companies themselves absolutely do not threaten copyright, i think they fit greatly in the current system, there's a reason why openai and anthropic both push to reinforce it and opportunistically cooperate with IP holders (see the openai disney deal). but ai as a technology in general does not, which is why you also see them making absolutely sure that the production and inference of ai systems is regulated and limited to a handful of large domestic corporates
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@ug @hipsterelectron @Flaky a technology that allows anybody to produce any amount of any immaterial product makes the product completely meaningless
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@charlotte @hipsterelectron @Flaky
i agree with the last bit, and perhaps “valueless” in the marxian sense, havn’t no labor value or exchange value, even in a marginal utility sense, art is typically valued in terms of novelty and skill involved, so the product of LLM’s is worthless in every sense of the word ( unreliable etc. )
i’m not sure if a company that produces anti-value is long for this world
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@ug @hipsterelectron @Flaky excuse my mangling of terms, im not exactly proofreading myself right now lol
