Replying to @⁨CameronDev@programming.dev⁩

I don’t get why the agent needs to have the contrib guidelines, it should be a human doing the actual contrib part, so its just a waste of tokens for the LLM to read it?

Why would you want to waste the tokens required to generate a subpar response that will either require the user to undo a potentially significant portion of what was generated, or you’ll end up using more tokens while the operator tries to get the AI to obey the standard (before they inevitably tell the stupid thing to follow the guide themselves later, anyway)?

Replying to @⁨Passerby6497@lemmy.world⁩

At least for the specific example given, I want developers to do the commit part themselves, so if their LLM is doing any part of that, its already a mistake IMO.

I had a very quick look at the AI agent guidelines, and nothing about them strikes me as overly burdensome for a human to fix up. So I’d rather just do that myself (if I were a kernel dev).

My main objection is forcing it on developers, it should be up to each dev to configure and manage their own agent. Making it a suggestion is fine, just don’t commit it. Also, if developers are using local hosted models, then context may be quite limited, so wasting it on an Agents.MD maybe be unideal.

Replying to @⁨CameronDev@programming.dev⁩

You’d put the things that aren’t up to personal preference in there, like an AI disclosure / contribution policy or what changes should look like to be reviewable. You usually don’t need to tell humans “don’t change things for the sake of changing them” because we don’t like to do more work than we have to, but agents do.

You can also include a compact “table of contents,” describing what lives where in the project. It saves at most a little bit of exploration though so I don’t know if it’s really worth the maintenance

Replying to @⁨kogasa@programming.dev⁩

but agents do

Depends on the model, Gemma 4 is extremely lazy in my experience, half the time it won’t finish the task properly anyway. Deepseek (not sure of the version) was crazily overactive. I personally prefer Gemma’s laziness, because it avoid making the chaotic changes that need to be rolled back, but thats a personal preference.

And thats kinda why I don’t like it being committed. If the entire team is using one model, then sure, commit the agents.md, and everyone gets a sane default, but given this is a multi-developer project with likely many different agents and models in use, it makes more sense to me that each developer manages the agents.md themselves and optimises it for their own model/workflow.