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U.S. Citizen Who Deleted Phone’s Data Says His Prosecution Puts Privacy at Risk
www.nytimes.com/2026/08/21/us/politics/samuel-tunick-deleted-phone-felony.html?unlocked_article_code=1.8FA.T83N.rt6VsIiSCYb2&%3Bsmid=url-share
Replying to @sanitation@lemmy.today
You know, since we are entering into a lot of legal weirdness here, how about this:
You give the cops TWO passwords. You tell them one is the duress password, and the other is the password that will unlock the phone.
Desperate and without a warrant, they try one. Wrong try! Phone is wiped.
In reality, both are duress passwords but they would have to prove that. (GoS only currently supports one duress password)
Yes, it’s ridiculous, but everything about this is ridiculous.
And what about maybe also adding in a friend or relative that’s with you so that you can inform the cop that one of you tells only truths and one of you tells only lies. I think we’re onto something here. ‘Dispatch, I’m gonna need the Riddlemaster to come down here. We got another one.’
And xkcd.com/538/.
Yup, you’re ok if they use the rubber hose. They likely need to produce you again at some point. If they use the wrench, they don’t care what you look like.
Nah, write the duress password on a piece of paper and keep it in your phone case. Then keep your mouth shut. Let the cops find it and try it themselves.
Yes! Or even better, make it 1234 or your birthdate and let them guess it on their own.
I have two different PINs I use for different debit cards. One of those is also my phone PIN, the other is my Duress PIN.
It would be really easy for to forget which is which when in a stressful situation.
Then you sue them for destroying your data. They took your phone and wiped it…
Replying to @impairedimperator@lemmy.zip
This is actually a really good idea. It would also work if your phone got stolen.
Replying to @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
aand it would make the stolen phone ready to use by the thief, because I guess graphene os does not implement factory reset protection, because that traditionally relies on login to a google account
Replying to @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
The guy in the story we’re discussing found a way to make a duress password work using graphene.
Replying to @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
“found a way” it is a feature, you can set it up in the settings. there is not much figuring out in that. but if you turn that on, and your phone legitimately gets stolen, now the thief can sell it for good money, because it is still usable. there is no easy toggle for that in the settings.
Replying to @WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
Well yeah the thief can sell the hardware, but the data is wiped. Not expecting it to be a self destruct feature.
Replying to @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
my point is this feature does not work that well against actual petty thieves, because all other phones actively disincentivize phone theft by making it very hard or impossible to make usable without access to the owner’s real account, and this one doesn’t. if you as a thief know that a pixel phone runs grapheneos, it is more valuable than others because you know you can just wipe it and it is usable again.
Replying to @impairedimperator@lemmy.zip
Labeled “phone password” for good measure.
Replying to @N0t_5ure@lemmy.world
Nope. Now it’s intentionally misleading. You don’t want that.