AngryCommieKender@AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world

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Historically, when vision tests actually mattered, I could see that. These days most commercial flights could be piloted by practically blind people, outside of “jamming accidents” caused by the military, since the planes can see and detect everything better than any human, and we finally have the final approach lasers installed at every US airport.

These days it should probably be female dominated, just because statistically speaking women are being hired more frequently than men across the entirety of the job market.

xxploit@xxploit@lemmy.ca

Replying to @⁨sanitation@lemmy.today⁩

Being good at some computer games (not just flight simulators) is helpful in getting through the recruitment process. I’d say a mix of having good orientation and implementing and executing a strategy is required at the very least (and sticking to it, which I didn’t do lol), which you definitely get/practice in games.

However the actual training process can cut those numbers dramatically, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they ignored obvious red flags with some of these ‘gamers’ just to pump those numbers up.

LilB0kChoy@LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com

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GDPR is a law with real legal consequences that protects EU citizens (EU as in European Union).

Do European citizens frequently turn to an “affiliate for the Duluth-Superior broadcast area, which covers northeastern Minnesota, northwestern Wisconsin, and the western portion of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula” for their news?

Do you spouse it’s easier for a local or regional organization to set policy to block warn GDPR covered connections or have someone spend time ensuring the site is GDPR compliant for the 1s? 10s? 100s? of hits they get?

LilB0kChoy@LilB0kChoy@reddthat.com

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they don’t need to retrofit their entire website.

Except they do, because even if they’re pretty certain their site is compliant with GDPR they’d still have to review the code to make certain it is or risk legal liability if anything isn’t.

Many small to medium organizations that aren’t operating outside of the USA chose to just block connections instead.

Is there a lot of people outside the US checking an “affiliate for the Duluth-Superior broadcast area, which covers northeastern Minnesota, northwestern Wisconsin, and the western portion of Michigan’s Upper Peninsula” regularly for their news?

rmuk@rmuk@feddit.uk

Replying to @⁨Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works⁩

Hi guys! Welcome back. So today we’re going to see if we can trigger that unsigned integer underflow bug that some of you have been talking about. As you can see here I’ve already got an Iberia Airbus A380 heading perfectly due West towards Null Island and, thanks to the telemetry bug we found last week that still hasn’t been patched we’ve got it showing as a two-seater Cessna so the occupation rate is 15000% so what were going to do is get the latitude, longitude and altitude to all cross zero at the same time…

🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@daychilde@lemmy.world

Replying to @⁨rmuk@feddit.uk⁩

“Atlanta Center, Delta 412, descending through flight level 190, vector for runway 26 Right.”

“Delta 412, copy. Hold your horses, bad connection on your end, total dial-up energy.”

“Atlanta Center, American 805, five miles behind Delta 412, also requesting 26 Right.”

“American 805, radar contact. Wait, you guys are practically sniffing each other’s tailpipes, this spacing is absolute dogshit.”

“American 805, we can go around and vector back if—”

“Nah, speedrun mode activated. Both of you cleared land 26 Right, first one down gets the lobby win! LEeeerrrooooyyyyy mmmmmmJjjeeennnkkkiinnnsssss!!!”

uncommoncorvid@uncommoncorvid@piefed.blahaj.zone

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so i have a little bit of insight into this whole thing. i got a few friends who are controllers and i’ve been in the hiring process myself for nearly 2 years. to save you the history of the hiring process of the last few years: long. duffy “supercharged” the hiring process last year, making it take a lot less time than it used to (months instead of years).

anyway, we don’t actually know if 2000 “gamers” got hired from this latest bid, they’re just saying that because they were catering to gamers with the advertisement (which was majority genAI content lmao). if you applied to the bid, you’re automatically a gamer.

now a few things on what this means for us and the safety of aviation. the minimum requirements are as follows: do you have a pulse? can you obtain a security clearance? do you not have any medical problems that will make you unfit to do the job? have you not taken any federally illegal drugs in the last few years? can you do a few basic math problems? if you can answer yes to all of these questions, you get hired. that’s what the 2000 number is.

when you get hired by the FAA, those 2000 people don’t immediately get to go control traffic at the busiest airport. all ATC candidates must go to the FAA’s training academy in OKC for 3-4 months to learn how to control traffic. it’s designed to train someone who doesn’t even know what a plane is to the basics of controlling traffic, phraseology and proper procedures and all. not everyone makes it through the academy and is a large percent of the attrition rate for applicants.

only after all that do they go to a real facility, but not like LAX. and then they learn some more before touching live traffic.

so overall, i’m not super worried about it. only the people who are actually capable will get though and even then, it will be well over a year before they are controlling on their own if they don’t fail training at their facility

uncommoncorvid@uncommoncorvid@piefed.blahaj.zone

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about 6 months minimum before they’re allowed to talk to real planes, a year and a half minimum after that before they are out on their own. the academy will get rid of a lot of people who truly are not cut out for this type of work, and facility training will get rid of more. tbh i’m not super worried because the job is do it by the book or find another job. if they don’t do it right, they won’t be talking to real traffic for very long if at all

scarabic@scarabic@lemmy.world

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What bogus hysteria. Do you have any idea how many people play video games? Would you expect them not to advertise a recruitment drive on television because we don’t want our air traffic controllers to just kick up their feet and watch the screens? Let’s not be idiots.

It’s far more interesting to ask why they need to advertise a recruitment drive. The profession has been losing skilled people because its high skill, high stress, high stakes, and their paycheck gets jerked around every time there’s a government shutdown. Let’s focus on that instead of clutching our pearls over them hiring people who have played video games before.

korazail@korazail@lemmy.myserv.one
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Replying to @⁨scarabic@lemmy.world⁩

And… also… Have you seen gamers?

The comments here seem somewhat strange to me for what is likely to be a “gamer” heavy demographic. There’s a lot of ‘I should stop flying’ or otherwise implying that people who, having games as their preferred hobby, will be bad at this. Instead, gamers tend to get really good at a few specific skills such as reaction times, pattern recognition, strategy and min/maxing, etc.

About the only thing I could think making this better would be to select for speedrunners.

That way we get livestreams for APLS - Awesome Planes Landed Safely - and also raise some money for a charity or two.

scarabic@scarabic@lemmy.world

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Absolutely perfect example of what I mean. You want to talk about gamers like they are this specific sub-niche of humans who are all the same.

Would you do this with movies? “People who watch movies are like XYZ and they only have a couple of skills.” What about music? “There’s a music listener in this thread and he said ABC.”

This is why I led with “do you know how many people play video games?” The gaming industry earns more annually than movies and music combined.

You have some stereotype of gamers in your brain, fine. That’s your deal. But “gamers” is just “people” these days. Including me. I’m a gamer. And I say: what bogus hysteria.

korazail@korazail@lemmy.myserv.one

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I guess I wasn’t as clear as I could be. I was not implying all gamers had good reaction times, pattern recognition and such. What I meant was that people who play games and consider themselves gamers are generally speaking striving to play those games better, and will often build some skills to pretty significant levels. Some of those skills will be relevant to ATC work.

To your point, this is true of many hobbies or professions and any hysteria against “gamers” being targeted with an ATC ad campaign is dumb.

TubularTittyFrog@TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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Replying to @⁨ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world⁩

Yeah, that’s the point though, the schools/training was massively underenrolled.

if the failure rate is 50%, you need twice as many candidates to fill the jobs. more so if it’s higher.

we also desperately need more medical staff, but nobody is scrambling to hire young men for nursing and other non-doctor medical roles. they are still predominantly marketed for women