You know, that is a fair take. It’s easy to pass judgment, but less easy to trust that everyone else would pass the same judgment on the same people you do.

The longer it takes for the justice system to do anything useful the more it feels like that’s exactly what we need.

The biggest problem is that the Nazis will use that excuse too.

Sure, but if the law doesn’t stop them then somebody else is going to have to anyway.

They are just lying to make up any excuse. What difference does it fucking make? If Nazis said you’re a pedo tomorrow and arrested you no one would be able to stop them, and they are doing that to their enemies right now.

Meanwhile all that heinous shit never gets tossed back their way because there’s no shortage of pearl clutchers like you protecting them. “What if what if what if what if”. Bitch you don’t need the what if. Nazis are lying and killing people RIGHT NOW and no one is doing shit but protecting them!

It’s not “what if” anything. I’m generally just against killing people and vigilante justice.

Vigilantes are welcome to fight Nazis. Full stop.

We want to fight Nazis, on that we agree. Then who are these people? We have a court system, an agreed upon authority to make such decisions.

Vigilante1 thinks Mister X is a Nazi, Vigilante2 does not think so. Who is right? Who decides here? I say a court does and this is why I think we can’t just go around and murder people.

Don’t live in a way that would make ANYONE think you’re a Nazi, and then it’s not a problem.

With the way that term is being thrown around these days, that is a dangerous assumption.

If I call you a nazi because I don’t like your comment, and then you call me nazi back, does that mean we should both die?

Sure, but as soon as just one person thinks someone else is a Nazi, should we kill them?

Again, I am not saying that it is cool to be a Nazi, I am saying that we can’t just go around persecuting people willy nilly. That is why we have a justice system and a court. Other wise we might just as well do away with them and do as they did to witches in the middle ages.

I deem thee to be a witch, now thou shall burn at the stake.

Nope. What you’re saying isn’t how it works.

Nazis are objectively intolerable and easily identifiable. They are reprehensible enough that reasonable people will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid any appearance of association or alignment with them.

If you disagree, that is a YOU problem and you are no longer welcome to talk to me until YOU solve it.

Period.

See, some people would identify me as a Nazi for saying “I don’t want random people going around killing people they think are Nazis based on their own judgment”.

We live in a world where people decide to be Nazis. So obviously, I don’t trust the judgment of every human being out there.

In your opinion, is the qualifications for a Nazi universally understood and agreed upon? As in, everyone in our society has the same opinion regarding what makes a person a Nazi?

Anyone worth respect.

I’ve literally never been called a Nazi in all my decades. Do you have that problem?

Do we have a court system, though? Do we really?

When people no longer trust the justice system to provide justice, they end up relying on alternatives. Is it the ideal solution? Obviously not. However, I’m not going to sit here and say the French resistance was wrong because they didn’t have the backing of their government. There’s obviously a gray area where anyone would agree it’s acceptable and not.

An organized revolution is different from random acts of vigilante violence

Sure, but if you think the entire French resistance was organized then you don’t really know what you’re talking about. There were plenty of individual acts. Insisting it must be organized, and then insisting that it must meet a certain level of organization, is only insisting that nothing is allowed. All revolution requires a certain amount of disorganization, or everything is centralized and is easy to topple.

Also, nothing in the above said for it to be unorganized. You previously only insisted acting outside the justice system is wrong, and now you’ve stepped back from that stance. It’s progress I guess, but you don’t see the bigger picture yet.

The media’s “all violence is evil” propaganda insists that the state has a monopoly on violence. They’re allowed to use it to keep us in line, but we can’t use it to keep them in line. The reality is that there should be no solid line. Every individual will have a certain tolerance and threshold for violence. Literally no one is at zero for both. Everyone knows violence must be used sometimes, but they disagree on when and by whom.

Sure, but if you think the entire French resistance was organized then you don’t really know what you’re talking about. There were plenty of individual acts.

Fair; I can see that. And no, I’m not incredibly familiar with the French Revolution at any more than a high level.

To bring it back to “hitting Nazis with cars”, my position is that I don’t trust the general public to appropriately identify and dish out appropriate justice to Nazis. “Identifying” them being a key part of that.

We’ve always been allowed to threaten vague groups.

The fact that someone saying Nazis should be run over is taken so serious as if that person is going to go out to perform vigilante justice is the problem. Nazis are pretty damn safe currently as they shoot our elected officials, shoot our protestors, run over our protestors, blow up our judges homes, and generally destroying democracy.

The fact that someone saying Nazis should be run over is taken so serious as if that person is going to go out to perform vigilante justice is the problem.

I don’t think we’ll ever have the full context (i.e., exactly what was originally said, that got the commenter banned), so it’s hard to say