Every time I see a vibe coder say something along the lines of "if you haven't used these tools over the past five minutes, you don't know what they're capable of, because everything's different now!" I get a little bit perplexed.

You do know that we can see the output without using it ourselves, right? Some of us are still reviewing pull requests and reading through code repositories, y’know?

Replying to @⁨petrikas@mastodon.online⁩

@petrikas @baldur

I found myself agreeing, but then I had to stop me, because I think the difference is in the consequences and the cost.

Because in the case of LLMs, it's at worst just a rather cheap waste of time, which is bad, but (in moderate doses) fine, if that means one can end up verdict that is not just based on expectation but actual data collected in an open trial.

Of course, the people referenced here do not mean in that way. They mean it in a dismissive way. But just because they're weak, doesn't mean that we should also counter in weak dismissive ways.

Especially given that an extensive list of all the bullshit one has personally seen the clanker do is an excellent tool to hit tech bros over the head with.