André Polykanine@menelion@caneandable.social

It's not "something something ableism". It's a tool that allows people to do what they weren't able to do before. distinguish items in the stores. Read menus in restaurants. Discern signs and other inscriptions. Get help from relatives or specialists with video calls instantly, positioning their head.
Okay, if you want to ban smart glasses, ban all cameras in smartphones first. I bet lots and lots and tons of videos were and are being taken with those right now. Yes, videos taken by those people you mentioned. so don't be hypocrite, everything or nothing. And to be honest, that desire to ban everything is really appalling. Ban kitchen knives, they are used by killers. Oh, and forks also, btw, they are dangerous as hell.
It's people's responsibility to observe laws, and it's the countries' responsibility to catch criminals.
You see a nasty person filming something he or she shouldn't? Get this person, fine, sue, whatever. but banning the whole technology because it can be used by criminals seems absurd to me.

Flaming_Water24@Flaming_Water24@mastodon.stickbear.me

RE: mastodon.radio/@VE3RWJ/1171688

I've been seeing this debate come up more frequently of late. My only question to those people who think that banning the Smart Glasses are anti-disabled or whatever. What do you think is the solution? There are maybe at most a couple thousand people with the resources and desire to use the smart glasses, per country possibly less. Compared to hundreds of thousands of able-body people who have the potential to use it negatively. Not to mention *all* of the META glasses coming attached with the Zuck-baggage. So, are we going to let such a potentially dangerous thing go unchecked just because something something ableism? Or are we going to actually provide a working solution?

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Flaming_Water24@Flaming_Water24@mastodon.stickbear.me

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@menelion @serge Yes, but it's significantly easier to detect if someone's recording you with their phone or an actual camera as opposed to the smart glasses where the camera is literally always on and you have no way of knowing. Everyone owns a smart phone now. All the things you described can be done via a smart phone just as easily with less risk to other people involved.

André Polykanine@menelion@caneandable.social

Replying to @⁨Flaming_Water24@mastodon.stickbear.me⁩

@Flaming_Water24 @serge No, it can't. It's even more surprising to me since you're blind yourself. Take the cane in one hand, the shopping cart in the other, and try to do something with a smartphone (whose touch screen requires two hands and a significant amount of dexterity, and you need also to hear everything TTS speaks). I mean, I lack for words, if I explained that to a sighted person, I would have no questions.

André Polykanine@menelion@caneandable.social

Replying to @⁨Flaming_Water24@mastodon.stickbear.me⁩

@Flaming_Water24 @serge I'm absolutely with Serge here. I still didn't hear any arguments why smart glasses are bad and smartphone cameras are good. they are so good that in Japan there used to be a law that prevented from turning off camera shutter sound, and Nokia used to release Japanese firmware separately in the days of yore. but it was in the days when video was a rare beast, nowadays anyone can use their smartphone, or a tripod, or whatever.

Serge from Babka@serge@babka.social

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@Flaming_Water24

No one is disputing the issue of concern legitimacy, we're arguing two issues:

1. If the concern ls legitimate, then the response should be universal, not only to smart glasses but to cameras overall. Right now we see people upset about Flock and Smart Glasses. Okay, what about all the other cameras?

2. We're discussing whether the concerns over privacy outweigh the benefits that the technology brings. You might say no, and that's fine, but there is a legitimate argument for "The benefits outweigh the concerns"

OR

"There are benefits but we need to establish social or legal frameworks around acceptable use"

@menelion