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Why is traditional mailing still so relevant in the US (especially banks) when the technology is so much more advanced?

I know the US is a shitshow right now but please im looking for sensible answers.

I have some documents from a bank that need to be mailed. PDF is not an option and no matter how much i push for a secure email option, they still stick with slow turtle mail.

I live outside the US and this slow mail process has been very frustrating. And not just banks, any other business if you request some form of paperwork, their answer => MAIL.

That is very weird consider to mail the document, they need to type out an electronic version then print and mail it. So why waste too many steps?

And i just discovered today theres a thing called mailforwarding service… Aka you buy a US mailbox, letter gets sent to that mailbox then they help to forward those internationally.

In contrast to when I am in China and Singapore, EVERYTHING is digital. It is so much better that the only thing i carry is my phone.

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I am in Poland. We have digital ID and drivers licences that are on par with plastic ones, digital patients portal where we get our prescriptions with QR code, we register and make changes to our business online etc. I never got mail from the bank but from time to time I get paper mail from various institutions - extreamly stupid situation last week - I wrote to the ministry online, via government portal and got answer via traditional mail 🤦‍♂️

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A non-cynical answer would be that for important financial or legal transactions, companies consider mail to be the most certain and binding, and the higher standard of evidence.

A cynical answer would be that mail-only processes exist to dissuade you from using them.

You’ll often find that accounts and services can be opened digitally but to close them you need to mail or phone. This is to make the company more money.

In cases where an organisation has to provide you information legally and can’t charge you for it, that might also be done by mail to encourage you to not bother.

For things like digital person-to-person money transfers, Europe solved that long ago by making bank transfers free and easy. In the US bank transfers are often a paid service, which is why people are still sending cheques to each other, and why the US has such a plethora of money-sending apps and companies all after a slice of the pie.

TL;DR - Money

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To an extent, institutional inertia. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Adopting new systems brings in a layer of uncertainty, sure maybe there is some upside to the new system, but does it outweigh the risk and cost of overhauling all the dependencies of the old system? Can you be sure that all the relevant stakeholders and partners will be onboard with the new system, or will some reject it and insist on the old system, thus requiring everyone to maintain two standards.

It’s much easier to adopt a new system when the old system is clearly non-functional and untrustworthy, or when there just wasn’t an earlier system that did that function in a given economic environment. The more important the institution, the more issue it causes if it fails, the more this applies.

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Building a secure, reliable, accessible and privacy respecting identity management infrastructure would be a monumental task, even if only good-faith actors were involved. Unfortunately, good-faith actors are in very short supply these days. In places like China or Singapore, people have no expectation of privacy to begin with, so it’s easier to build digital services there.

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A few answers:

Sounds like you have a shitty bank.

Traditional mail is important in the US because not everyone has access to the technology you speak of. Keep in mind, the USA is 50 countries in a trenchcoat and many areas / states are 3rd world.

Institutions like to use the previous point to justify not updating systems or keeping systems intentionally frustrating in the hopes people will not bother them.