Thats so stupid…

What exactly is stupid?

That it’s only one city that bans pervert glasses?

Using them to film others already is illegal by general privacy laws (hasn’t been tested in court yet though). This is about making it illegal to wear them.

This! So much This! Next Step banning Cameras and Phones. Or like some Countries already have mandatory shuter sounds

A shuter sound does nothing now that both cameras and phones with a decent zoom

Why would you want to put the onus of proving something illegal was done on the victims?
Banning pervert glasses solves the problem at the root. Plus it’s orders of magnitude more easy to prove someone wore them than proving something illegal was done with them.
MPAA - make perverts afraid again ;)

Why would you want to put the onus of proving something illegal was done on the victims?

Because someone is innocent until proven guilty maybe ?

Banning pervert glasses solves the problem at the root. Plus it’s orders of magnitude more easy to prove someone wore them than proving something illegal was done with them.

Maybe, but this way you ban them also in situation where they could be usefull.
In a way you are punishing a technology instead of the people making bad use of it.

The filming is already illegal. Small Cameras exist. Phones with massives zooms exist. Smart glasses are not the Problem. Espacially as ther probably will be a generall ban meaning smartglases without camera will be banned too

I had a debate about this the other day. I very much think these are creepy and look bad, but this kind of surveillance tech has existed for a long time, not to mention the prevalence of cellphones. I don’t understand what banning smart glasses accomplishes. There is plenty of creeper tech recording stuff out there. Just seems like poorly thought out legislation. What if I wear my cellphone on a lanyard, would that be illegal? Isn’t there surveillance tech on public transport already? What expectations of privacy do people have?

I think that any laws being made should focus on the broader concepts such as surveillance, privacy, consent, etc. This just seems like policy driven by people’s dislike of meta creeper glasses.

*Seems spy tech is already illegal in germany so this ban doesn’t matter much

The thing is: I would get them too if I could afford it.

For the headphone stuff which is quite cool tech actually, I don’t like wearing in ear headphones and they basically work as headphones without going into your ears. The Ai stuff seems honestly creepy but I’m sure they legally can’t force you to use it in Europe and the camera stuff seems okay.

Yeah I do think there’s real utility to these and they’ll become more and more useful. These companies are working towards AR glasses that could completely replace phones.

You can just buy the headphone part. Shockz open ear headphones . Or many other brands

I use shokz openrun pro 2 every day. Love them #notad

That’s great actually!

From my perspective has to do with form factor more than anything else. These smart glasses at a glance are indistinguishable from regular glasses. A phone looks like a phone, so people know what’s up at a glance.

You can already buy spy cameras. They are legal

Here’s how I understand the current legal situation in Germany (no guarantees this is correct) :

Spy cameras (that is, cameras that are concealed or not immediately apparent as such in some way) are illegal to use in public spaces. Smart glasses don’t fall under this category when they have a small indicator LED so that people can tell it’s recording.

Wow you must have really good eyesigth. My pixel7pro claims 30x zoom. At that distance i cant really tell what you are doing.

Other camera tech existing is not a valid argument that these should. These devices and such technology should be fought and opposed at every corner. Rather have the privacy/surveillance debate kickstarted with a ban on one than risk having them ‘normalized within society’ such that a ban would be unenforceable. Edit: spelling

Tu quoque.

Just a city? How are these things legal anywhere else.

It is basically already illegal everywhere in Germany. German law has these things called “the right to your own image” and “the right to your own voice”. Basically if I want to film or photograph you, I have to ask for permission first, even and especially if you’re out in public. There are exceptions for if the person is incidental to the image (I photograph a building and you just happen to walk into the shot) but these don’t really apply when riding the bus. So using the glasses is already illegal. This is about wearing them.

Side note, this is also why Germany doesn’t have as many private security cameras. Because you need to place them in such a way that you don’t film the sidewalk, which is complicated. And it’s also why German media doesn’t use secret phone recordings. It’s always a “recollection from memory” re-enacted by a voice actor.

about the private security cameras, somehow amazon smart doorbells are still a thing though, and fairly common

And their installation is almost always illegal. But they stay up as long as nobody complains. “Normal” security cameras tend to be big and you can see where they point at. Doorbell cameras are small and easy to miss, so they fly under the radar

blind people are actually decently assisted by smart glasses. it’s just a shame they’re mostly used by perverts. there should be a state-sanctioned version only for blind people, with limited features, and an open weights AI model hosted somewhere in the same country with data not used for training and such.

“A German city”

Fuck is wrong these people? Why can’t anyone title their articles like a normal human being…

Because if they said the name of the city, nobody would need to click. 100% of the information you would glean would be in the title.