Replying to a post on lemmy.today
There’s strong correlation in crime statistics for both severity and frequency of violent crime and being black
It is therefore not a surprise that feeding prisoner crime data, and not any race data, into a computer to determine prisoner risk has the same correlation between race and likelihood of violence
To reduce the rating based on their race would be discrimination by definition
Replying to @ryannathans@aussie.zone
Psst don’t call out facts, you’ll be downvoted
Replying to @glowie@infosec.pub
Nah, these facts are not the issue. Omitting that the statistics themselves are the result of discrimination is kinda negligent though.
The solution wouldn’t be to try to balance out a bias in a fundamentally flawed dataset, but to establish a human system of decisionmaking that’s resilient to prejudice and bias instead of relying on machines that can only imitate their makers’ mistakes.
Replying to @luciferofastora@feddit.org
Omitting that the statistics themselves are the result of discrimination is kinda negligent though
Is that the only reason? Or perhaps is there a cultural component to this?
Replying to @darkwing_duck@sh.itjust.works
You mean whether a people trapped in poverty, deprived of perspectives, desperate and frustrated by the injustice that continues to be done to them, develops a culture of violence?
Yeah. Probably. That’s what centuries of slavery, segregation and wealth-gating social mobility will do to people: they get stuck in a cycle of poor conditions harming childhood development, leading to ill-adjusted adults struggling to get or hold good jobs, some of which will resort to other ways of making money.
www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/…/violence
www.opencrime.us/analysis/crime-and-poverty
Pretending it’s a racial issue or a culture of violence is only half the truth. The other half is that it’s an economic issue arising from a history of treating them as second-class citizens at best, at worst basing your entire government on the conviction “that slavery subordination to the superior race is [the black man’s] natural and normal condition” and going to war over it.
Replying to @luciferofastora@feddit.org
You need to get out more. Listen to what people who successfully got out of the ghetto say about the social difficulties involved with getting out. “Acting white” (e.g. reading) is frowned upon. Crabs in a bucket.