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AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton: ‘We’re creating alien beings. I’m willing to be selfish and choose humans’
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/13/geoffrey-hinton-trump-ai-techposted in Technology
AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton: ‘We’re creating alien beings. I’m willing to be selfish and choose humans’
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/oct/13/geoffrey-hinton-trump-ai-techReplying to @lavenie@lemmy.zip
It’s so demoralising to perpetually witness apparently intelligent people be convinced that Algorithmic Iterators can in any way be mistaken as a form of intelligence. I’ve struggled for decades to relate to the world; but this recent, collective debasement of rationality has nearly obliterated the few remaining foundations suitable to build hope upon.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
Define intelligence.
Replying to @Eheran@lemmy.world
Comprehension, something LLMs are intrinsically incapable of demonstrating, let alone possessing.
Replying to @nonentity@sh.itjust.works
you are just replacing one underspecified concept with another. what’s “comprehension”?
Replying to @nialv7@lemmy.world
It’s what you don’t posses about the workings of LLMs (or basic English).
Replying to @h0tbeef@lemmy.zip
anyone can quote a dictionary without comprehension.
Replying to @nialv7@lemmy.world
I didn’t quote it, I sent you the entry in the hopes that you might read it yourself and learn something
Replying to @h0tbeef@lemmy.zip
Jesus fuck… did you actually read your definition?
- the act or action of grasping with the intellect
Okay, we’ve replaced the concept of “intelligence” and just swapped it out with “grasping with the intellect”.
- knowledge gained by comprehending
Nice, using the verb word of “comprehending” to define “comprehension”.
- the capacity for understanding fully
Okay, maybe that’s a start, but it’s incredibly vague.
Also, clicking on the links just resolves back to the most generic circular definition possible. Remind me to never use Merriam-Webster.
At least this gets further: en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comprehension
If we settle on “A thorough understanding” and define understanding as… fuck, we’re back to this circular bullshit again.
Okay, fine, let’s just look at intelligence:
The capacity of mind, especially to understand principles, truths, facts or meanings, acquire knowledge, and apply it to practice; the ability to comprehend and learn; the ability to process sentient experience to generate true beliefs with a justified degree of confidence.
Breaking this down:
I also don’t think “sensations” are impossible to emulate, either.
Replying to @p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Words have meanings, and you don’t get to change them in order to strengthen a weak argument.
I’m sorry that those meanings aren’t convenient for your untenable position.