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Does Mastodon bring anything of value to a Lemmy user?

As far as I can tell from my venture into Mastodon’s feeds, the demographics of that part of Fediverse isn’t that different from what Lemmy has: the same political takes, FOSS stuff, “big corpos bad”, etc.

I wonder, is there anything that Mastodon excels at that Lemmy just doesn’t provide? For example, I noticed that there are game developers and artists posting their stuff on Mastodon. Not many game developers (or any creatives, really) on Lemmy though.

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Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

they are entirely different contexts of communication. mastodon is a 'microblog' platform, where one person tends to broadcast to a group of subscribed users

lemmy is just forums with threaded discussion.. many to many as it were.

personally, ive always generally hated the twittersphere (microblogging), and avoid it mostly. but it is nice being able to subscribe to the small number of microbloggers i do enjoy thanks to mbin's built-in integration.

Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

Mastodon is her better at things like updates in the way you mentioned, and it’s easier to build a purpose focused # than it is to build a community on lemmy.

You’ve also got different character limits, so you end up with most posts and responses being easier to follow; just hit the # in question, and you’ll end up with concise responses. Which isn’t better than a longer character limit, as it often lacks depth and nuance. It’s different and has benefits though.

It’s also way easier to find relevant imagery on because of the hashtag system. There’s no good way to look up images on lemmy/piefed at all, but Mastodon makes it easy, as long as the poster uses #s accurately. Since most do, if you’re into something like birding, you can find specific birds by a # search. That’s the best example, but it applies to damn near any subject matter.

I’d also argue that it’s a better system for artists and writers overall, as long as they have their own places where they keep their works. You can’t drop short stories on most Mastodon instances, and big image files of art tend to not be ideal. But being able to put your stuff in a single repository of some sort and just link it via a toot for anyone that’s a fan is superb.

Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

I think it’s still under the tipping point. The more fans use it, the more it’ll be good for fandoms, but it sometimes takes more fans onboarding and the thing they’re a fan of also at least nominally present for it to match the numbers of other platforms.

But in terms of functionality for fandoms, it’s as good as twitter was. It doesn’t have the same purpose as tumblr or Facebook, so those can’t be directly compared. I would say that in terms of what a fan base could use Mastodon for, it matches or exceeds Facebook simply by virtue of not being corporate, which means no artificial barricades. Tumblr is its own thing though, and it isn’t going to be 1:1 with lemmy/piefed or Mastodon. The use case just isn’t close enough.

There are fandoms present on Mastodon, mostly anime based, and the hashtag system works well for that, imo.

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Tumblr is its own thing though, and it isn’t going to be 1:1 with lemmy/piefed or Mastodon. The use case just isn’t close enough.

Fediverse has a Tumblr alternative nowadays - wafrn. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the culture there is much more different from both Mastodon and Lemmy. More chaotic and creative, it’s really nice to see!

There are fandoms present on Mastodon, mostly anime based.

I’m surprised. My (limited) experience with .social’s feed is that it’s mostly Very Serious People who are posting, mostly about politics. Maybe I need to dig deeper.

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this is where I think the mistake was made. I really think they should have started with the idea of a user and a user account as a place for various services to store configs and then did something like saml. So the most basic server to run would be a user server and you could even have simplified user applications that is for a user to keep his own user account. I think nostr would be a good way to start from this perspective but im not sure if its doing it really the way I am thinking.

Replying to an earlier post

Mastodon excels in updates. If a niche is alive on Mastodon, then you will get news from it before Lemmy. Especially in infosec, or (if you are from Europe, especially from Germany or the Netherlands) local news. In a way, shitposting is also freer on microblogging, without Threadiverse’s pigeonholing into different magazines/communities

The discussion may have worse UX. Only selected alternative frontends (like phanpy.social) have got nested threads like here and until recently, replies were delivered only to replier’s follower instances, resulting with users not seeing all the discussion and inconsistent threads between instances.

Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

I came from Mastodon. I think Mastodon does have some good features that haven’t come to Lemmy such as account migration and bio sites verification, while Markdown and no word count limit in Lemmy excels Mastodon. Other difference are more due to the different nature of them, just like Twitter compared to Reddit, for example, more organizations, artists, developers, etc. post on Mastodon.

Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

for me it doesn’t work. tested on both troet.cafe and wien.rocks mastodon instances. neither following my user account ( feddit.org/u/gandalf_der_13te ) or following a typical lemmy community ( feddit.org/c/dach ) works. both appear in the search results, but their feeds are empty.

edit: update: sometimes it does work but results are inconsistent. probably it was fixed in a recent update and some mastodon / lemmy instances just haven’t updated to it yet. that would be good news ❤️

feddit.org@gandalf_der_13te - feddit.orgnew account due to issues

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I personally don’t like microblogging platforms in general. It’s cool that there’s an alternative to twitter and the like, but I just have no pull towards platforms that emulate that kind of environment. I think it’s great that it’s so popular and has introduced a lot of people to the fediverse and spread awareness of ethical alternatives to corporate slop, but is not for me.

Replying to @⁨catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone⁩

For the commuities/topics I’m interested in Mastodon has a very weird vibe that clashes with the vibe of the communities on Lemmy and sometimes it feels like the Lemmy communities are getting brigaded by Mastodon users. Also Mastodon comments are very “noisy”, every comment needs an @someone to work and every second word is a hashtag. If I check out Mastodon on its own it just seems like a lot of people screaming into the void, but I never understood the appeal of Twitter either.